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I don't think "of Siam" is necessary, since it increases ambiguity rather than reduces it. My first impression encountering the title was that it was a mistake, and there should be a "the" in it. That is, at first I thought it was supposed to be the Supreme Council of the State of Siam. After doing some research, I see that it is actually the Supreme Council of State of Siam.

Although Google provides evidence that there are or have been other Supreme Councils of State, right now there are no other such articles on Wikipedia. I'd like this to be moved either to Supreme Council of State, or to Supreme Council of State (Siam). To me that's much clearer. But since this isn't my article, I'll fish for some opinions first. Opinions? --rikker (talk) 21:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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As there is no present article on the Legal history of Thailand, someone could start one based on the chapters in Twentieth century impressions of Siam titled Siamese Law : Old and New, by T. Masao, D.C. LL.D., Senior Legal Adviser to H.S.M.'s Government and Judge of H.S.M.'s Supreme Court of Appeal, who gives the legal history of Siam going back to the foundation of Ayutthaya, that begings on p.91:

In the King of Siam's preamble to the new Penal Code which was promulgated on April 1, 1908, and came into operation on September 21st, his Majesty the king said : " In the ancient times the monarchs of the Siamese nation governed their people with laws which were originally derived from the Dhamasustra of Manu, which was then the prevailing law among the inhabitants of India and the neighbouring countries." Such was also the conclusion arrived at by the writer of the present article in a paper read before the Siam Society of Bangkok in 1905, in which the writer endeavoured to show by textual comparisons that the ancient Siamese laws were derived from the Manuic laws of India....The space allotted to this article does not permit the writer to give these rules in detail. Suffice it to say that while the Code of Manu (VIII. 64-68) contains a list of some thirty odd kinds of persons who are incompetent to give evidence, the ancient Siamese Law Concerning Witnesses (Laxana Piyarn) contains a list of exactly thirty-three kinds of such persons, justifying the remark made by some one that these rules " excluded everybody who was likely to know anything about the case."
The Administration of Justice, by W. A. G. Tilleke,. Acting Attorney–General, continues from p.94

--Pawyilee (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]