Talk:Super Bowl III

"The most important Super Bowl ever played"

The first paragraph makes the assertion "This game is regarded as...the most important Super Bowl ever played." Although I don't object to the assertion, the article needs to justify it. Someone reading the article, in my opinion, would not learn why the game was any more important than any other Super Bowl. It's true the game was an upset, but so was Super Bowl IV (Chiefs/Vikings). It's true the AFL was regarded as inferior, but it was still regarded as inferior for Super Bowl IV (many thought Super Bowl III a fluke). The justification I have seen is that if the NFL team (the Colts) won Super Bowl III, especially in a blowout as the Packers did in Super Bowls I and II, the wisdom of the NFL/AFL merger would have been called into question, and the very existence of the Super Bowl itself might have been jeopardized. I think the article needs to state what the consequences of a Colts victory, especially a blowout, in Super Bowl III might have been. In other words, what was so important about the Jets' victory? Why was Super Bowl III more important than Super Bowl IV?65tosspowertrap 21:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

How about we just agree that it is "The most important Super Bowl ever played (by the Jets)". :) I think this Super Bowl was important in that it got more exposure than the previous two, and helped lead (with SBIV) to acceptance of the AFL teams. However, I can see removing "most important" and replacing with "pivotal", or some other synonym for "league changing". CodeCarpenter 15:03, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

No Controversy has Arisen from Shula's Decision Not to Kick a Field Goal late in the game

I removed this entire section with the above title because it is not NPOV. While the authors may have a valid point, Wikipedia is not the place to do that. Makes for an interesting blog post, though. —Twigboy 14:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The account of this game is slanted towards the Jets. Any attempt to edit this article fails. It is crap!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.5.119.170 (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC) See www.superbowl3.net for an accurate account of this game.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.5.119.170 (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

It is what it is. Editing to say what COULD have been is not the purpose of any encyclopedia. Something like this would be a better blog post. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 20:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Ridiculous Number of Interceptions

Somebody needs to fix the number of interceptions that Earl Morrall "threw for 2,909 yards and 26 touchdowns, with27377267426 interceptions". I don't know how many he actually had, so I can't change it to the right one. Raoulduke25 (talk) 14:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Error In Text

The first paragraph about the Baltimore Colts seems to have lost a line or two of text. After starting the discussion about Johnny Unitas, there is a shift to mention of Don Shula keeping Earl Morrall as the starting quarterback. I do not know the details that should appear between Unitas and Morrall, but something is missing. BuckeyeJim (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

super bowl 3

The Baltimore Colts now the Indianapolis Colts against the New York Jets they lost in 1969. It was one of the biggest upsets in the super bowl history for the Colts. thats was there first super bowl the Colts ever Whent to the MVP was Brodway Jeo Namath for the one and only New York Jets. Thats history there the first biggest upset in Super Bowl History. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.189.73 (talk) 15:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

National Anthem Performance

The article as current shown listed Anita Bryant as national anthem performer. However, I recently watched an upload of Super Bowl III on YouTube; and following the pledge of allegiance, Lloyd Geisler; a trumpet player for the National Symphony Orchestra was shown playing the anthem on trumpet. I edited the page to show that only for the entry to be reverted. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 23:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

As long as Bryant continues to be listed on a reliable source like http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history/entertainment , editors will always try to edit this Wikipedia article to match that. Whatever YouTube video you are watching, it may be considered a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability#Copyright and plagiarism if the YouTube user who uploaded that video did so without the league's permission (especially since Super Bowl III is one of the 20+ classic Super Bowl games available on its NFL Game Rewind subscription service) -- and thus would disqualify it as a reliable source. I'm not sure what the ultimate solutions would be (since the video on NFL Game Rewind edits that performance out) beyond trying to contact NFL.com to have them change it there. You could try to find a newspaper article listing Geisler, but the page at NFL.com listing Bryant is more accessible, and considered more official, to most Wikipedia editors. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:55, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Finally, someone found an alternate source.[1] Apparently the Paley Center for Media has a copy in its collection and they posted a summary here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I have seen many sources that report that Anita Bryant was the anthem performer, while others report Lloyd Geisler was. However, watching the footage of the broadcast shows Lloyd Geisler performed the anthem alone. So reports of Bryant having been the anthem performer appear erroneous (though commonplace). SecretName101 (talk) 01:23, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Current lead section

The lead section is currently 7 paragraphs. Is there some reason why all this WP:TRIVIA and facts need to be there, especially a lot of facts and trivia regarding the aftermath following the AFL-NFL merger? In order to keep these Super Bowl articles within the general 4 paragraph limit per WP:LEADLENGTH, and remove a lot of the trivia, I have in the past used a format for the lead on these Super Bowl articles. The format was:

• Paragraph 1: Basic info and identification of the teams, stadium, city, and date.
• Paragraph 2: Short summary on the background of the teams.
• Paragraph 3: Short summary of the game, roughly 4-6 sentences long.
• Paragraph 4: Brief overview of TV, entertainment, and other most important points.

Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:50, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

I have thus created an new "Aftermath" section to relocate some of this material. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:30, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Historical Error

This sentence is incorrect, although it is commonly cited as truth: "Although publicized as the inter-league championship games, it was not until later that the moniker for this championship contest between the now two conferences (National and American) began having the nickname of "Super Bowl" applied to it by the media." In fact, the media billed even the first "interleague championship game" as the "Super Bowl." See https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020305298.html

Bubba Smith's evidence of his claims of a fix for this game

I encourage other editors to review for inclusion my edit (id 1247928308).

It is completely factually inaccurate to say that Bubba Smith has no evidence for his allegations.

I have noted with citations to actual video of him saying it that Bubba Smith pointed to a couple of different facts about Earl Morrall's play

- Earl Morrall, the regular season MVP, ignoring wide open primary receiver Jimmy Orr on a likely touchdown play
- The Colts having 6 scoring opportunities in the first half and zero points.

When determining if a game was fixed, blatantly poor play by a normally good player cleary constitutes evidence of a possible fix. 73.28.218.215 (talk) 20:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

A player's bad performance is not evidence of a fix. Did Bill Buckner get paid off to let the ground ball go between his legs? C'mon. Sometimes, players play badly. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Bill Buckner's play would be far less evidence of a fix than Earl Morrall because he was not the regular season MVP that year. C'mon. But yes, it would be evidence of such a claim. Just far, far, less significant. 73.28.218.215 (talk) 21:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Was Mahomes accused of throwing Super Bowl LV? Sometimes players have bad days. Just because Morrall was MVP has basis here? Such a claim would need ironclad references and sources because of what it would mean in the grand scheme. It is dangerous to put speculation in the main article. Red Director (talk) 22:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Mahomes played well in SB LV. Morrall played so poorly that he was benched midgame. C'mon.

Morrall's historically poor play is a fact, and is non-trivial evidence towards a fix. There is no danger in noting that reasonable people have raised it as an issue.

I encourage review by alternative moderators. 73.28.218.215 (talk) 22:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Mahomes threw for more yards than Brady in Super Bowl LV, and ran for a bunch too. His O-line was outmatched in that game. 2601:589:4C80:78D0:B811:8220:C57F:CAEC (talk) 23:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)