Talk:Sunny Singh (writer)

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Kate Clanchy

Dear Mr Belbury, Please do not remove all my work. It is sourced in news with the tweets only backing up the news. Professor Singh is a most committed tweeter. Also please do not replace with claims without evidence. I am feeling bullied here. I would ask you to remember that even though I am young and Pakistani I am not ignorant. I do not understand why you are so attached to one view of this. Please will you verify you are not working for Professor Singh? Noor NoorStores (talk) 16:53, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Much of this material is being sourced directly from Twitter and not quoted in news stories. Wikipedia can never use tweets as a source for a claim about a third party, per WP:TWITTER. And you cannot write that a person is known for her views on debate by just citing a tweet where they expressed an opinion about debating.

Statements like Clanchy's publisher, Picador, an imprint of Macmillan Publishers, also appeared to endorse Singh's claims are also inappropriately interpretative, as is implying Philip Pullman's resignation to be connected or perhaps a result of Singh's statements. Belbury (talk) 17:02, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you please Mr Belbury this is not the case. There is a news story about Prof Singh's debating views. The tweet is merely extra back up. For the second statement, it carefully says 'appeared' and the news stories also backs up this view.

thank you for your time, please will you check the citations. NoorStores (talk) 17:07, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Times source quotes the same tweet, but does not say that Singh is particularly "known for" her views on debating. Belbury (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shukran Mr Belbury, I will substitute the word 'noted' NoorStores (talk) 18:17, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have again restored the Singh accused Clanchy of... and Singh alleged that Pullman had... sentences with only tweets as sources. This must be reverted per WP:TWITTER.

Your statement that The Society of Authors apologised to Singh does not appear to be directly supported by the source you link to at https://societyofauthors.org/News/News/2021/August/Inclusivity-across-publishing

Again, your statement that Clanchy's publisher, Picador, an imprint of Macmillan Publishers, also appeared to endorse Singh's claims is not supported by the source, it is your interpretation of the source. Above you highlight the use of the word "appeared" as some kind of clever and careful phrasing, but this means how it appeared to you - it is WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH to write it in a Wikipedia article, in Wikipedia's voice.

Later actions by Kate Clanchy and the Society of Authors would seem to belong in the Kate Clanchy and Society of Authors articles, not a short biography of Sunny Singh. Clanchy writing a 2022 opinion piece about Singh being a bully for the New Statesman is a primary source per WP:RSEDITORIAL, it should only be included in either biography if there is some secondary coverage of this criticism. Belbury (talk) 19:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr Belbury,

I have written to you on my talk page about your extreme claims about my language and extreme and wholesale removal of my work. I do not believed it is justified and I am very concerned about your motivations. I am feeling bullied and upset.

But I am not unreasonable and am glad that you agree there should be a particular page about this controversy. I am grateful for you information about WP Editorial. On these grounds presumably all the material which depends on Monisha Rajesh's opinion piece in the Guardian should also be removed. I will do this when I return. In the meantime, I hope you will consider my words about bias.

Peace Noor NoorStores (talk) 19:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]