Talk:Sumak kawsay

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Hi, everyone! I am working on this page over the next couple of days. I thought it would be helpful to add more information on this concept outside of the context of Ecuador. Any and all feedback is welcome! Oak313 (talk) 22:27, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Oak313: Thanks for your work on this article. Are you aware there's also an older article with the cumbersome title The Rights of Nature in Ecuador - Sumak Kawsay? Does it cover the same ground as this article, and if so should they be merged? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:35, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Arms & Hearts: Hi, thank you for your comments. I am aware of the existing article, I hoped that this one would expand information on sumak kawsay because the concept/paradigm exists outside of Ecuador and its constitution. If you think there's a better way that I can achieve this, please let me know! Oak313 (talk)

@Oak313: Thanks for clarifying. I see now that the articles are different in scope. My sense is that the Rights of nature in Ecuador article (which I've moved to better conform to the Article titles policy) could be merged to this one as a subtopic – in part just because having that article, this article and the section in Socialism of the 21st century feels muddled – but on the other hand both articles are fairly detailed and well-referenced, and it would be a shame to lose anything. Perhaps someone will come across this discussion in the future and feel differently. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:23, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Potential reversion

Hi all. I'm considering returning this article to the revision here, from November 2023. After this point, an IP editor made changes that I believe substantially worsened the state of the article with English usage, style, wikilinks, etc. Besides the edits from different editors that happened afterward, such as refining the short description and fixing categories and citation info (which I am fine with), I think this article is best served by reverting to the November 2023 revision. Additionally, the Spanish version of this article (particularly the lede) is more aligned with the November 2023 version, and while different language versions do not necessarily have to parallel each other, in this case, trying to keep the two versions relatively consistent is ideal.

Obviously, this is a big change, so I wanted to give people a chance to offer their opinions here before going through with the reversion. I'd like to make a decision by 1 June, at which point I'll either revert or work with what exists now. Thanks in advance. Fuchsia the Sun (talk) 23:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and reverted to the general structure of the November 2023 version, though I kept some of the added citations and adjusted the language as necessary. There are still some major things to work on here (citation strength and NPOV among them), but those can be part of the normal editing process. Fuchsia the Sun (talk) 15:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]