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why does it say to present? im sure the sultanate ended. ethiopia does not recognize the sultanate and it has no power in the region so surely it is a delusion state in the hearts and minds of afars. source p.117 says "awsa came under ethiopian control after the battle of 'arraddo (januray 1896)" [1] so 1896 they became some sort of puppets for the abyssinians..another source p.12 says ""1944, when they captured the sultan and brought him to Addis ABABA, where he died. The office then went to an afar kinsman who maintained a semi-independent sultanate tributary to the government in Addis Ababa. Even this degree of autonomy disappeared after the 1974 revolution" [2] alimirah had the title sultan but he was merely a leader of the afar community Baboon43 (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have no idea what your talking about. The battle you mention did not made Awsa a land ruled by Ethiopia. In fact battles were continuing until about 1945 when Ali Mirah became Afar leader. He wanted peace so he agreed to cooperate with Hailesillaase. Most other Sultans were so hostile they used to kill and get killed. Historianalafari12 (talk) 23:07, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree there is no Sultanate today, it is just a title. As for the battle of Arraddo, I never heard about it and I did a lot of research about this battle but unfortunately couldn't find anything informative. If you have anything detailing about this battle please provide it as I want to read about it, thanks. Historianalafari12 (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Topic is contradictive

Hi, The article assumes it was Muhammad Ibn hanfare who agreed with the Italians when in fact he fought them at Adwa. "During the Second Italian-Ethiopian War, the Sultan Mahammad Yayyo again agreed to cooperate with the Italian invaders." But before this sentence the article suggests Muhammad Ibn Hanfare fought Egyptians so it is clearly contradictive. Also it is a clearly well known there were several Mohammad named leaders, the Muhammad who agreed with the italians was the one over thrown by Ali Mirah. Historianalafari12 (talk) 23:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify that? Where is the contradiction between one person cooperating with Italians and another person fighting Egyptians? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In 1865, the newly unified Italy bought Asseb from a local Sultan (which became the colony of Eritrea in 1890), and led Sultan Mahammad to sign several treaties with that country. As a result, the Ethiopian Emperor Menelik II stationed an army near Aussa to "make sure the Sultan of Awsa would not honor his promise of full cooperation with Italy" during the First Italo–Ethiopian War.[9]

During the Second Italian-Ethiopian War, the Sultan Mahammad Yayyo again agreed to cooperate with the Italian invaders.[10] As a result, in 1943 the reinstalled Ethiopian government sent a military expedition that captured Sultan Muhammad, and made one of his relatives Sultan.[11]

There is no nothing written about Mohammed Yayyo other than the last paragraph but when it includes the word "again", it seems like the author is speaking about same Mohammed. The quotes seem to speak about same person from top to bottom. Historianalafari12 (talk) 20:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Afar State did not join Ethiopia in 1896 nor 1902

One of history book quoted here claims the Afar State became part of Ethiopia after the Arraddo battle in 1896, a famous battle fought between Sultan Muhammad Hanfadhe Illalta and King Menelik II of Ethiopia. The claim however has no historical bases except for Ethiopian side which seems to be quite biased. The Afars contradict this because Menelik army lost the battle at Arraddo and immediately left for highlands. The way to prove this is by acknowledging the fact the Afar sultans have been fighting Ethiopian kings until Sultan Ali Mirah came. Maahis150 (talk) 22:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Red Flag- Confused

Just a little question. Where is the original source of the flag of the Sultanate of Aussa? I'm simply surprised by the simplicity of the flag and hope to have a source of it to check upon. TheeChEese (talk) 00:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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