Talk:Sultan, Washington/GA1
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Reviewer: Argento Surfer (talk · contribs) 13:58, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- The 2010 census data isn't presented very clearly. The sentence "There were 1,607 households" provides percentages that add up to more than 100. Are the percentages after the 44.4% referring to how the 44% break down, or to the population as a whole? Same concerns for the 2000 section.
- the gender makeup isn't presented the same between the two censuses. One gives a percentage, the other comparisons of 100 to 101.3. It would be easier for a reader to process the data if they were in the same form. I'd prefer percentages, but either way is fine.
- "100 accidents within Sultan city limits between 1999 and 2000" - is it still this treacherous? The data is almost 20 years old but the claim is present tense.
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- Putting the 2010 data before the 2000 data in the demographics section seems backwards to me - most articles I work on move in chronological order. That said, I don't usually work in this subject area, either. Is this common for articles about geographic locations?
- It's common practice and didn't really raise any eyebrows in previous city articles taken to GAN or FAC (though my current FAC is now facing the same question). The section will likely be deleted in a few years time when the 2020 census comes out and replaces the data. SounderBruce 20:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:51, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's common practice and didn't really raise any eyebrows in previous city articles taken to GAN or FAC (though my current FAC is now facing the same question). The section will likely be deleted in a few years time when the 2020 census comes out and replaces the data. SounderBruce 20:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Putting the 2010 data before the 2000 data in the demographics section seems backwards to me - most articles I work on move in chronological order. That said, I don't usually work in this subject area, either. Is this common for articles about geographic locations?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- no concern - I especially like what you've done with the references to Damkaer. I've never seen that before.
- B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
- "Population growth in the Skykomish Valley slowed after World War I due to reduced need for lumber" - the source doesn't say the need for lumber was reduced, only that the economy was slumped.
- C. It contains no original research:
- no conccern
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- no concerns per earwig results
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- no concern
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- no concern
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- no concern
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- no concern
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- no concern
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- no concern
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- The article's in good shape, but there are a few things that need to be addressed before I can pass this. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:24, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Argento Surfer: Thanks for the copyedits; I have gone ahead and soft-reverted a few that I didn't think were needed. The citation concern has been resolved, as well as the accidents section (though the data is useful as a historic comparison). As for the census section, the auto-generated text does read a bit strangely and I'll see if a script can be made to apply these kinds of fixes across more city articles. The percentages in the household paragraph are meant to be distinct and separate from each other (e.g. a household may have children but be unmarried, or a single parent). I have fixed the 2000 census's gender and age paragraph so that it matches the 2010 census. SounderBruce 03:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick turnaround on this, Bruce. Nice work, as usual. Happy to promote this one. Argento Surfer (talk) 00:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Argento Surfer: Thanks for the copyedits; I have gone ahead and soft-reverted a few that I didn't think were needed. The citation concern has been resolved, as well as the accidents section (though the data is useful as a historic comparison). As for the census section, the auto-generated text does read a bit strangely and I'll see if a script can be made to apply these kinds of fixes across more city articles. The percentages in the household paragraph are meant to be distinct and separate from each other (e.g. a household may have children but be unmarried, or a single parent). I have fixed the 2000 census's gender and age paragraph so that it matches the 2010 census. SounderBruce 03:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- The article's in good shape, but there are a few things that need to be addressed before I can pass this. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:24, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Pass or Fail:
