Talk:Suisse Secrets

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Requested move 27 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved - Consensus that the capitalised version is the common-name. FOARP (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC) FOARP (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suisse secrets → Suisse Secrets – This was a rather large scandal and, I believe, is therefore a proper name (not just because of the "Suisse" in Credit Suisse). Multiple reliable sources use the uppercase version. This includes the originator (Süddeutsche Zeitung, even in English), NYT, The Hill, which uses #SuisseSecrets, Press Gazette, SWI swissinfo.ch, Reuters, and the Miami Herald]. OTOH, contrary to this are The Guardian, Tribune India, which use "Suisse secrets". The OCCRP, which was fed the info from the Süddeutsche Zeitung and which is the most-cited source in the article, also uses "Suisse Secrets". — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 15:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, not per nom, but per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS: nearly every independent reliable source capitalizes this; in a fairly long trawl through news about this, I only found two exceptions [1],[2], and the first may just be search keywords not prose. When independent reliable sources in English near-uniformly capitalize something, then WP will also do so. That's the standard (see lead of MOS:CAPS). Not 'I can find a few sources that capitalize it', which is the first reason the nomination above is faulty. (RMs like this are not helped by showing a few examples of capitalization.) The second reason is the nom's "This was a rather large scandal and, I believe, is therefore a proper name" reasoning, which shows no awareness of what a proper name actually is, and really boils down to 'capitalize it because I think it's important' reasoning, which is against MOS:SIGCAPS. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:45, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per SMcCandlish's reasoning. I started the article, based on coverage in The Guardian, hence the "secrets" lower case "s". Edwardx (talk) 01:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS. The evidence does show some (few) lowercase uses but a search of Google news indicates that it is sufficiently capped (fairly consistently) for WP to cap it. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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