Talk:Sugar cube

A fact from Sugar cube appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that sugar cubes were used to deliver the polio vaccine?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cube sugar.

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Absinthe sugar

Had to remove the following phrase from the article: "Specialized cubes are produced and packaged for the absinthe ritual". While I can recall reading about the fact many years ago, I was unable to find the source again. If anyone knows it, please let me know: the fact is cool. Yes, I know that you can buy these pieces on Amazon, but I am looking for a truly good source, or at least some mass media drivel on the subject. Викидим (talk) 22:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: I have marked page as reviewed as part of NPP. Nice work expanding a (nearly) 16-year old redirect!

Skynxnex (talk) 01:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:40, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that sugar cubes were used to deliver polio vaccine? Source: Grigorieva, Alexandra (2015). "sugar cubes". The Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets. Oxford University Press: "At midcentury the cubes became a vehicle for delivering the polio vaccine, and later for delivering LSD"
- ALT1: ... that the inventor of cube sugar was driven by his wife's injury? Source: Kennedy, Pagan (November 16, 2012). "Who Made That Sugar Cube?". The New York Times Magazine: "In the 1840s, progress was made when Juliana Rad, who was married to the head of a sugar refinery in Moravia, cut a finger while chopping sugar."
- ALT2: ... that the first manufacturer of cube sugar went bankrupt, and the second one came close? Source: Part 1: Drahoňovská, Lucie Pantazopoulou (2018). "From Round to Square". Fehler. Goethe-Institut: "the Datschitz company went bankrupt. Rad returned to Vienna in the autumn of 1846" Part 2: Chalmin, P. (1990). "Thames Refinery and the Cubes". The Making of a Sugar Giant: Tate and Lyle, 1859-1989. Harwood Academic Publishers: "We only know that Henry Tate went through a rough financial period [while opening the factory]"
- ALT3: ... that architects reinvent the sugar-cube metaphor every few years? Source: Jencks, C. (2002). The New Paradigm in Architecture: The Language of Post-modernism. Yale University Press: "the metaphor of stacking rooms like bricks or sugar cubes has re-emerged every five years or so ever since Walter Gropius proposed it in 1922"
- Reviewed:

Converted from a redirect by Викидим (talk). Self-nominated at 07:34, 2 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cube sugar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@Викидим: What wonderful facts these all are. I personally favour the first hook, it is just so fascinating. Article is long/new enough as it was recently converted from a redirect. Article is adequately sourced, looks good and Earwig's is clean. I was able to verify the main hook in the book (pg 679), thanks for the quote. Article also matches hook. It appears that Викидим has no previous DYKs (one approved nomination), so QPQ isn't required. Everything looks good here, well done. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sources

Two sources are not used at all:

Hildebrand-Schat, while interesting in interpretation of Kazimir Malevich's obsession with right angles, definitely constitutes the brand-new research. I considered it to be the primary source and did not dare to insert it into our article.
Kaysers, Schweck & Delavier appear to represent a very solid source (used in the German Wikipedia), but I did not find any easy access to it. If someone can get hold of the text, it most likely can be used to expand our article.

If someone feels that the unused sources do not belong in the article text, feel free to move them onto this talk page. Викидим (talk) 20:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to sugar cube?

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Closed a little early as there is an overwhelming consensus to move.(closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cube sugar → Sugar cube – "Cube sugar" is not as common as "sugar cube", so perhaps we should move the article to a new title? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CactiStaccingCrane I support this change, I've personally never heard of it referred to as cube sugar. Or is it an WG:ENGVAR difference? —Panamitsu (talk) 21:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The reasons for my choice of the current title are simple and outside of ENGVAR: it was (1) not occupied inside Wikipedia, (2) used as an article title in the WP:RS that I had started with (reference 1 in the article), and (3) has no singular/plural issues. I would support the move. ~~Please see also Talk:Sugar cubes.~~ Викидим (talk) 22:06, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly WP:ENGVAR. I believe one is a mass noun (a type of sugar that consists of cubes) and the other is a singular count noun (a cube-shaped object made of sugar). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:24, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Related RM/TR discussion at permalink. – robertsky (talk) 04:53, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I've always referred to it as sugar cube, and I believe this is the dominant term. Either one is technically correct. Aaronfranke (talk) 06:36, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am tempted to unilaterally move the page myself. Scorpions1325 (talk) 12:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Goone ngrams show that "sugar cube" is by far the more common term and has been every year since 1962. Thryduulf (talk) 21:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the consensus is clear. I have submitted a new WP:RM request as "uncontroversial". Викидим (talk) 21:21, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Articles cannot be at WP:RM#C and WP:RMT simultaneously. An editor will determine the consensus of this discussion after at least seven days have passed. 162 etc. (talk) 22:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Викидим (talk) 22:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Rreagan007 (talk) 07:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:56, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and those above. BD2412 T 18:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Sugar cube" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Sugar cube has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 14 § Sugar cube until a consensus is reached. Викидим (talk) 02:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]