Talk:Suedehead (subculture)

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History

Suedeheads appeared around late 1970, early 71. The novel "Suedehead", which I think was a sequel to "Skinhead" was published in 1971.

I would dispute the idea that suedeheads were a separate youth movement from skinheads. The term 'suedehead' was simply coined as a lighthearted tag for skins that had decided to have their hair a bit longer. The clothing styles were exactly the same. Skins always wore formal clothing as well as jeans and boots. GeneralJumbo 17:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Here is the true story of the Suedeheads. Suedeheads were the original skinheads. The movement began in London in 1967 (search out the record "Club Ska 67"). They were working class white boys, rejected ~(and still ignored to this day) by the mainstream media. They listened to the pirate radio stations -Radio Caroline & Radio London -which led them to develop an appreciation of black music and reject the commercialised white music, Beatles, Stones, Cliff Richard etc. being fed to them by mainstream radio & TV. Their short haircuts mirrored the hairstyle of the black musicians that they so admired, hence the term Skinhead. The original skinheads were never, ever racists. They weren't perfect. They despised hippies who they regarded as dirty, drug taking, drop outs. But they had absolute respect for West Indian & black American culture. These working class boys followed this culture from Ska to Rock Steady to Reggae for 3 years. Everything changed around 1970. Reggae music was dumbed down for commercial purposes. The bass signal was reduced & a string section was added to make the music more acceptable to European ears. Added to this was a new breed of skinhead. A thick, braces wearing, moron who followed groups such as Slade & was a member of the National Front. This was total anathema to the original skinheads. The final straw was the release of the record "Skinhead Moonstomp" around 1971. Possibly the worst record in history. Given this new situation, the original "skins" grew their hair slightly longer, moved away from Reggae and into Uptown R&B, called themselves Suedeheads and wanted nothing to do with these morons. They still exist today, but their story is never told. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scopecover (talk • contribs) 23:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Suedehead really isn't a separate subculture from skinheads, they were just usually skinheads with quite a bit longer hair because a lot of skinheads were fed up of being barred from clubs because of there hairstyle, and no one really called themselves suedeheads apart from the press, and people forget that skinhead haircuts were not really as short as they are now, it is just a name.

Some having white collar jobs is irrelevant too,some skinheads will of had white collar jobs. working in an office does not make you middle class, and suedeheads(if there is even such a thing) did not really appear until 1971/2 atleast.

Its not accurate to say all orginal skinheads were not racist, some were left wing and some were right wing, and racism back then was generally more common. It was just a subculture. There was also black and asian skinheads, and some skinheads getting involved in the national front did not happen really until the late 70's revival, skinheads listened mostly to reggae and tamla motown originally not slade which were seen as a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.51.21 (talk) 09:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Title

the name of the article should be changed to "Suedeheads" instead of "Suede-head"

Disambiguation

Both Suedehead and Suede-head[s] deserve a Disambiguation page, since at present the Suedehead title on the "List of Skinhead books" page, links to "Suedehead", the Morrissey album. Only Suede-head on the "Skinhead" page actually links to "Suede-head", the Skinhead-offshoot. Nuttyskin 23:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyright infringement

I deleted the text that was copied directly from the liner notes of the Trojan Records Suedehead box set. Much of the information in those liner notes would be a useful addition to the article, but plagarism is not allowed on Wikipedia, due to legal and moral issues.Spylab 18:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab

Morrissey

I don't think the infomation on Morrissey's single, Suedehead should be included as it has nothing to do with the Suedehead subculture, as it even says in both of the articles 7 May 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.173.67 (talk) 20:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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