Talk:Suburbs of Johannesburg

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July 27, 2005	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
August 15, 2005	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
August 24, 2005	Featured article candidate	Promoted
August 12, 2009	Featured article review	Demoted
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Sanctions leading to contraction and empty buildings in the 1980s ?

I don't think this is what happened having visited the place in the 1980s, could some reliable sources be quoted, were sanctions responsible for the empty buildings in the CBD in the 1980s? Please substantiate this strange claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.217.180 (talk) 17:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regions

I am very familiar with Johannesburg having lived there for a few years in the 1990s but this concept of Regions did not exist then and I find their use in this article confusing. The article does not introduce them or provide an overview of the whole regional system and numbering structure. Is it "official" or just some convenient nomenclature derived (and I must say elegantly too) by the article's author(s).

I suspect that it is "official" but some introduction would be wonderful.

(In true wikipedia fashion I decided to answer my own question and to post my findings here.)

Hillbrow

Minor minor nitpick. Hillbrow used to be one of the 'nicest' suburbs around? Is their a more...dictionary style word for this?

ManicParroT 04:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sentiment for Apartheid?

"A street in central Hillbrow. Under apartheid Hillbrow used to be one of the nicest suburbs in the city; however, it is now extremely dangerous." This image description reveals a thinly-veiled racist agenda. The wording should be changed. VarunRajendran

This comment is inappropriate. You could have asked for substantiation instead of implying that the editor in question supported the apartheid regime. For interest, although I cannot support the quote with peer reviewed facts, I can say that Hillbrow was (during apartheid) a safer, nicer area. This was for the simple reason that it was a "white" area and therefore had stricter movement laws and heavier policing. After the fall of apartheid, Hillbrow became what is found in most cities around the world... an inner city "slum". Because policing was now more dispersed, there were fewer police to control the area which is becoming over populated with immigrants and drug lords.

Regards

GetDownAdam 19:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're so sensetive about race, then understand that many are sensetive about being called racists prejudicially. I do in fact agree that the wording needs to be changed because of the potential racial interpretation -- but note that a racial interpretation is not the only interpretation that could be made, and certainly your comment states matter-of-factly that the description reveals a thinly-veiled racist agenda -- when this is not for certain. Racism is a highly political issue in South Africa -- any non-Black/non-African person that critiques the government is usually branded a racist - which is both undemocratic and unfair -- even when the criticism is absolutely not racist or even racial. In the case of your statement, I can agree with what you were trying to say, but you said it in a conclusive and prejudicial way that is unfair. So I think we shall have to compromise both on your statement, and on the statement in the article. Rfwoolf 19:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of a "suburb"

The concept of a "suburb" is a bit weakly defined in the article for Johannesburg, and on Wikipedia, for South Africa, and reliable sources that cite legal definitions would be welcome.

Is a suburb a township (in the legal sense)? If so, what about "Extension" townships? Is, say Bryanston Extension 2 a seperate suburb to Bryanston?

Is a suburb in South Africa a postal code area? Some combination of a postal code area, and a township?

What does the City of Johannesburg municipality classify as a "suburb"? Park3r (talk) 13:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree I looked but couldn't find any reliable sourceSassmouth (talk) 06:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 10:06, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map differs wildly from description

The map suggests that Rosebank, the Parks etc. Whereas the map shows it in the central region (which isn't even in the article...). The borders are also irrational. 196.24.216.2 (talk) 11:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think this claim is correct! This article has a few inaccuracies! GeographicAccountant (talk) 09:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]