Talk:Stupid Girl (Garbage song)

What does this mean?

"These remixes can be found on various 'Stupid Girl' and 'Milk' formats."

What the hell are Stupid Girl and milk formats?

• This refers to the various 12" vinyl and CD formats of Garbage singles "Stupid Girl" and "Milk" I have removed the above line in any case, and will write a better worded section on the Stupid Girl remixes. Breakinguptheguy (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

REM fact?

"The song also appears to sample Orange Crush by R.E.M. during the song's bridge."

• I have removed this, because I believe it is has no basis in fact. I have been a hardcore Garbage fan since 1996, and have never once read or heard a quote by any of the band referring to this song while discussing Stupid Girl, or indeed any other Garbage song. If it was claimed by, or alluded to, in a written publication then, until it is substantiated as a fact, it could be included in a Critical Reception section of the page. Breakinguptheguy (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I have just reached this entry (and the discussion page) looking for confirmation on that: the drum rolls in "Stupid Girl" ABSOLUTELY ARE the opening for "Orange Crush". I was just listening to Garbage's song now and happened to notice something weird I wasn't expecting. As a huge R.E.M. fan, it took me about three seconds to identify "Orange Crush". If no one on the media has identified it before, well, too bad, and if the band has never mentioned it, then kudos to us who first found it. One thing to be sure, tho, is that there is zero doubt about the sampling. - 201.80.65.163 (talk) 15:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Seems to be confirmed https://twitter.com/m_millsey/status/1301672029595328518 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.242.103 (talk) 09:58, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Music & Structure

If anyone knows a program, app or site that can make a stave to display a passage in "Stupid Girl" to visually aid this section please let me know, or create one yourself.Breakinguptheguy (talk) 18:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Status (talk · contribs) 00:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I will begin the review shortly. I don't think there will many problems; as first glance, it looks like a pretty solid article. Statυs (talk) 00:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

• No disambiguation links
• All of the refs are in working order

Lead

• "Stupid Girl" is a song by alternative rock band Garbage for the band's self-titled debut studio album. --> Either change to "a song recorded by... for the band's..." or "a song by... from the band's..." It doesn't make much sense saying "a song by... for the band's..."
• The song was composed and produced by bandmembers Duke Erikson, Shirley Manson, Steve Marker and Butch Vig, featuring lyrics about female empowerment, and a musical arrangement centered around both a repetitive bassline and a drum sample from The Clash's 1980 hit "Train in Vain". --> Way too long of a sentence. Can be broken up into two sentences.
• The song was released by Almo Sounds in North America and Mushroom Records worldwide as the band's fourth international single in 1996, and it became their biggest hit in United States and the United Kingdom. --> This too can be two sentences.
• Critics also reviewed positively to the song --> Oddly worded, and what did they say about the song? Generally?

Composition

• This section should be retitled to production, conception or something of the sort, as that is what it is about.
• "Stupid Girl" began as a rough demo around January 1994, recorded during informal studio sessions between Vig, Erikson and Marker in Marker's home basement recording studio in Madison, Wisconsin on prior to Manson joining the group. --> "Stupid Girl" began as a rough demo around January 1994. It was recorded during informal studio sessions between Butch Vig, Duke Erikson and Steve Marker in Marker's home basement studio in Madison, Wisconsin, prior to Shirley Manson joining the group.

Music and structure

• This information is the composition of the song.
• I'm not seeing the genres stated in the infobox anywhere here. Typically, the genre is stated (with a source, of course) in the composition section and then said again in the infobox.
• Everything else looks good.

Single release and chart performance

• I see no major issues here, although, I would suggest breaking this up into two sections. One of the release, and one of its chart performance.

Music video

• The caption doesn't really explain the screenshot very well.

Critical reception and legacy

• Missing apostrophe on Select.
• Too long of a sentence; should be in three separate sentences.
• Why the red link?

Release history

• Where exactly is the source for each release date? I'd assume that it isn't stated in the single release itself, but if so, then it's fine.

Comprehensive charts

• Consistency with Billboard.

External links

• Remove garbage-discography.co.uk, it appears to be a fansite

Overall

• Overall, the article is pretty well written; just a few adjustments to be made. Maybe some images could be added, it's a little bare, and surely there is enough room for one or two.

Did what you requested, see if anything remains. igordebraga ≠ 14:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Release history

My only remaining issue is that of where the release dates are coming from. Statυs (talk) 16:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Added URLS as refs. igordebraga ≠ 16:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

The Release history section needs to be removed. The references used are fine for the track list, but they do not show the date in which it was released; the sources you added fail to either. Statυs (talk) 18:06, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Removed the section, then. igordebraga ≠ 02:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ref 15 (used for the February 5, 1996 date) shows a release date of August 12, 1996. Statυs (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• Here are a few sources for release dates of the single in the U.S. [1] [2] [3] Statυs (talk) 03:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
  • The 2CD UK set [4] [5] Statυs (talk) 03:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
• Replaced a few. Is it OK now? igordebraga ≠ 04:58, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes. I am now confident in passing the article. Great work! Statυs (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69CfQuN_Y8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.160.16.109 (talk) 08:09, 19 July 2018 (UTC)