Talk:Study of Health in Pomerania

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For the reviewing admin - in most cases, papers submitted to journals become the copyrighted property of the journal. I can't determine if this is the case with this paper, but the google searches seem to show that this article is identical on at least two text searches to the full source...but I can't review the actual source paper without an academic login to the journal site. Syrthiss (talk) 13:00, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am the author of this article. I am a new member in wikipedia and I wrote this article in my German account (Biologist) and wanted to copy it in the English version of Wikipedia. I wrote the German Article (Study of Health in Pomerania) too. It is a research project from the university greifswald. If there is anything I can do to rescue my article please let me know. I wanted to link my German article (Study of Health in Pomerania) with my English version. Can somebody please help? thank you! Biologist 2 ([User talk:Biologist2|talk]]) 15:11, 25 October 2010

We changed the images from the first article and changed some text. But this article is a research project from the University of Greifswald and the authors of this text are the same authors from the article in the journal http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dyp394. It is not a replication! Biologist 2 26.11.2010 14:30 Uhr 141.53.70.97 (talk) 12:32, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me understand the copyright status of this work? I believe that when I submit papers to journals in the US, I have to sign documents that give the journal copyright of my text (or at least a shared copyright, since the journal wouldn't be able to claim that the work is theirs alone). While I could use the text from the article as the basis for an extended work (such at a Master's thesis or Doctoral dissertation), I couldn't simply post the content to a website word for word. For example, Elsever gives guidance on what you can and cannot do with papers published in their journals: http://support.elsevier.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/565. This is essentially what I believe to be the case here: you are the authors but you may not be able to use this text in the way that you think you can, and we may have to have documentation of the donation of the text from you as well as from the publishing journal. Syrthiss (talk) 12:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The text in this Wikipedia article is not the same like in the journal article. It isn´t copied word by word. It is a complete new text. It is a similar context because we described our study in Wikipedia as well as in the journal. If you could read the text in the journal you will see it. Probably you will have a look on our homepage: http://www.medizin.uni-greifswald.de/icm/index.php?id=20. Biologist2 (talk) 10:07, 27 Oktober 2010

If you give me an e-mail addresse I can send the original paper to you and you can check it!? Biologist2 (talk) 16:30 27 Oktober 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Hi. I have reviewed the original paper, and I'm afraid that content is very similar--close enough to constitute a copyright problem under Wikipedia's policies even in the proposed rewrite. For example, in the lead of the rewrite, it says:

A particular characteristic of the SHIP is that it does not specifically address one selected disease; it rather attempts to describe health-related conditions with the widest focus possible.

The paper says, at page 2:

A particular characteristic of the SHIP is that it does not specifically address one selected disease; it rather attempts to describe health-related conditions with the widest focus possible.

In the "Previous esults" section, the proposed rewrite says:

Baseline SHIP-0 data indicate that the population of West Pomeranian suffers from a particularly high prevalence of common risk factors and diseases. The prevalence of overweight and obesity is much higher in West Pomerania than in other German regions, resulting, among other consequences, in an exceptionally high prevalence of gallstone disease.

The paper says, at page 9:

Analyses of baseline SHIP-0 data indicate that the West Pomeranian population suffers from a particularly high prevalence of common risk factors and diseases. For example, the prevalence of overweight and obesity is much higher in West Pomerania than in other German regions, resulting, among other consequences, in an exceptionally high prevalence of gallstone disease.

The tables uploaded as images are also identical to content in the article.

This is a problem, I'm afraid. Oxford Journals is very clear here that their policy is to require "sole and exclusive license for all published content". While they permit the authors certain uses, they do require permission for commercial reuse. Wikipedia requires that content be released for commercial reuse. I'm afraid that unless Oxford Journals is willing to grant license of the duplicate content, the article you have published through them must be treated as though it were written by somebody else, which means that we cannot use content from it except in the form of brief, clearly marked quotations. All other text and images must be new creations that are not subject to their exclusive license.

Can you please rewrite the text so that it does not contain language or structure from the Oxford Journal paper? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:21, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok. I will talk to my boss and we will change some things. Thank you for your patience. 141.53.70.97 (talk) [User:Biologist|Biologist]] 5 November 2010, 8:15 —Preceding undated comment added 07:16, 5 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]