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This article is written in Hong Kong English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, travelled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

A fact from Struggle Committee (Hong Kong) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a committee of Chinese compatriots of all circles from Hong Kong Island and Kowloon struggled against what they viewed as persecution by the British authorities in Hong Kong?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Struggle Committee (Hong Kong).

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Committee of Hong Kong–Kowloon Chinese Compatriots of All Circles for the Struggle Against Persecution by the British Authorities in Hong Kong was a committee in Hong Kong Island and Kowloon which aimed to unite Chinese people of all circles in a struggle against British colonialism in Hong Kong? Source: Lane, Kevin P. (11 July 2019). Sovereignty And The Status Quo: The Historical Roots Of China's Hong Kong Policy. Routledge. p. 113. ISBN 978-1-000-31238-6.
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- Comment: I have not yet reviewed another DYK nomination, but this is only my fifth nomination. I will review two other DYK nominations before my next nomination. Yue🌙

Created by Yue (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Yue🌙 20:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hook is slightly too long and should be shortened per WP:DYK200. A shortened version of the above - which I have not yet attempted to verify - is ALT1: ... that the Struggle Committee in Hong Kong Island and Kowloon aimed to unite Chinese people of all circles in a struggle against British colonialism in Hong Kong?--Laun chba ller 22:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I intended to have the long translated name of the organisation as the "hooky" part of my original hook. I think this is lost with the shortened name. Perhaps a better hook with a different focus is needed, but I have not thought of one yet. Yue🌙 23:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess if the hook is the name, then an alternate hook could be (the source remains the same):

ALT2: ... that the full name of Hong Kong's Struggle Committee was the "Committee of Hong Kong–Kowloon Chinese Compatriots of All Circles for the Struggle Against Persecution by the British Authorities in Hong Kong"?

Yue🌙 21:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, if the article title was the full thing, I might be inclined to AGF it. (For the record, "that the Committee of Hong Kong–Kowloon Chinese Compatriots of All Circles for the Struggle Against Persecution by the British Authorities in Hong Kong struggled against persecution by the British authorities in Hong Kong" came out at 221.) I'm on the fence with ALT2 as to its interestingness - what else have you got?--Laun chba ller 10:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ALT3: ... that a committee of Chinese compatriots of all circles from Hong Kong Island and Kowloon struggled against what they viewed as persecution by the British authorities in Hong Kong?

ALT4: ... that the Struggle Committee was blamed for a series of bombings in Hong Kong in 1967, despite it only holding two meetings during its entire existence?

ALT3 is a play on the full name of the organisation, verified by the same source given for the original hook and ALT2. ALT4 is verified by: Cheung, Gary Ka-wai (1 October 2009). Hong Kong's Watershed: The 1967 Riots. Hong Kong University Press. pp. 38–39, 91. ISBN 978-962-209-089-7.

Apologies, I meant IAR, not AGF. (WP:ARG!) ALT3 checks out and AGF ALT4. Full review needed.--Laun chba ller 22:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing the nomination:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall:

A well-put together article on Hong Kong history. The article was 5x expanded within the appropriate time frame when it was nominated March 20, it is long enough, its paragraphs are all sourced, as is the sentence containing the hook fact. The tone is neutral, straightforwardly summarizing the events and circumstances. Plagiarism appears avoided, per Earwig (checked the hits, and they're just from repeating long titles of sources or orgnizations) and some spot checks. ALT3 is

approved with the reviewer having verified the sourcing for the name of the organization through the Heaton (1970) source. ALT4 is

approved with good faith as I am not able to read the language of the source that verifies the end of the Struggle Committee when the government banned it (which in turn grounds the information that the two meetings held during the riots were the only meetings of its existence). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]