Talk:Structure the Spin Dr.

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Proposed Deletion

I have fixed up the article a bit and am removing the deletion tag for the following reasons. The performance of a DJ in front of 20 million people on television is a notable event separate from the boxing match. I have also found additional press references, including a highlighting of Structure in a 4 minute clip on the Press of Atlantic City. I have additionally found an independent web-tv interview to add context below. Also, in the Washington Life Magazine article he is not merely referenced, but is interviewed by the author and prefaced by some notable work. I will put a construction tag on the page and continue to look for additional references in the coming days as I welcome comment. Jeremy112233 (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the referee at the boxing match notable because he refed in front of millions? Is the girl holding up the round number also notable? Performing in front of people does not make a musician notable.

Interviews and videos are not considered reliable and independent. If I say in an interview I'm the President of the U.S., it does not make me the president.

A good reference of what is and isn't a good source is WP:GNG.

What makes a notable musicians is WP:MUSICBIO.

It is only my opinion that I don't think he is notable. You may find references to convince me or not. The next step would be to put it for discussion and a group of editors will weigh in. So, if you disagree with me, that is fine and we can both take it up to a higher "power". I have and will be wrong. I have no problem waiting for a few days. I really do hope the refs are found and the article stays. Bgwhite (talk) 05:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken a look at the links you've guided me to, and WP:MUSICBIO does state Structure is notable. Point 10 of WP:MUSICBIO places notability on the production of a theme or execution of a performance by a musician for a notable television show. If the notability of a televised event is demonstrated by depth of coverage, then the Briggs Klitschko fight would qualify (there are dozens and dozens of references of the fight, before, during and after it happened). Ergo, yes, the DJ playing a performance to introduce one of the fighters and otherwise score the event on television at this match on ESPN is more notable than a referee or ring girl. (On a side note, most of the boxing referee pages actually point to the opposite of what you are saying--that they are indeed notable purely through their refereeing and without very many other sources). Point 10 does not require the performance be referenced by anything but the show itself, and a reference has been provided proving ESPN showcases and refers to him during the broadcast. While normally attachment to a significant event would not provide notability, in this case the guideline states that it does indeed provide notability in this instance.

Point 7 also allows for notability if a musician is a very significant figure within a local scene. The interview included at the bottom is of an indie news source that exhibits his prevalence within a particular subgenre--should I add this as a reference in the actual article? His residences at the top nightclubs in NYC also contribute to notability under point 7, as the top representatives of a local DJ scene are the top residents at the top clubs. As regards your point on interviews, I think there is a misunderstanding. I've not used any claims from the interview as if they were inherently reliable as you infer that I have; I was just stating that the act of interviewing an individual within an article features him beyond mere mention, adding to the depth of coverage in that particular piece. However, it is point 10 of the guidelines on musician notability that provides the greatest level of notability for Structure.Jeremy112233 (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've also added an additional reference to Germany's top television network that talks about Structure in its lead up coverage to the fight, which makes three separate references to Structure at the fight (RTL, ESPN, and BILD), all of which are highly notable news outlets that felt Structure notable enough to talk about him in their coverage of the event.Jeremy112233 (talk) 15:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am in fact structure the Spin dr, jonathan DePrisco. I would like to claim that this page is valid and real. And would also like to have my image added. Thank you for your continued support Wikipedia.

The Spin Dr (talk) 20:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to add that the user jeremy112233 has been sited for trolling lots of other pages on wiki and doesn't leave artists to be Artists. If someone from wiki can contact me direct that would be appreciated. The Spin Dr (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]