Talk:Structural insulated panel

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Would someone put something about the price in the article or address it here? I want to build something and looked here for price information. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.85.219 (talk) 21:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SIPS is also now being used in the swimming pool industry to build insulated inground water structures: pools, spas, spools, etc....

Insulatedpoolkits 01:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)Jeffrie Rowland[reply]

Thanks, added to the article. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 02:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These aren't structural insulated panels. They are expanded polystyrene blocks covered in shotcrete, and will behave structurally very differently than SIPs.

SIPs are composite, meaning that the skin and core act together to resist loads. Insulated Pool Kits application, while innovative does not develop composite action between the shotcrete skin and the foam core. See their website: http://www.insulatedpoolkits.com/design.asp

Have struck the insertion. MARussellPESE 16:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Good catch. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 02:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

The "benefits and drawbacks" section doesn't seem to be very neutral. Also, is "stick built" an accepted term? I always understood that was an epithet. "Wood framed construction" sounds more neutral. Lumber and "sticks" are not the same thing.Mzmadmike 04:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Decent point, however wood is too specific; it can be framed with other materials such as metal. I've removed stick entirely; and have added a drawback paragraph. Further feedback welcome. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 01:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Stick built" is not an epithet. It's a descriptive, colloquial term for balloon frame or platform frame construction.—Quicksilver^{T @} 19:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is a neutrality issue per se, but I think more could be said about the drawbacks. The fire concerns that I added, for example, are very real (I put in a reference but don't know how to get it to show up at the bottom of the page). There are a lot of open questions about the structural and thermal performance that could be pointed out. In addition to the fire and long term structural integrity, there's things like R-value changes over time, environmental sustainability, etc. Bris0073 02:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Open questions meaning unknowns? The article refers to a test house in Wisconsin which is still being used, that seems fairly durable. While that is not a fully fledged SIP system, I'm unsure it would be appropriate to question the performance of the material unless data/case studies were available. Does the foam change in R-value faster than conventional insulation? It would be interesting to see an environmental assessment of SIPs; but off the top of my head can't concrete and foam be recycled? - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 00:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the request for a picture, I drew a cut-away view of an insulated panel today and placed it at http://www.kysorpanel.com/insulated_panels.htm. Kysor Panel Systems, builds walk-in coolers, refrigerated warehouses, scientific laboratories, homes, clean rooms and many other structures using their insulated panels. I hope this helps. Pete Detlef —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckeating01 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Description	Kysor Panel Insulated Panel
Source	Self made for Kysor Panel Systems http://www.kysorpanel.com/images/KysorCutaway-PRD.jpg
Date	created 28. Feb. 2008
Author	Peter Detlef, KYSOR Panel Systems
Permission (Reusing this file)	For the sole use of KYSOR Panel Systems and for display on wikipedia.org only.
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Sandwich Panels

SIBs are clearly a form of sandwich panel and this article should be integrated or merged with that article. Protozoon (talk) 12:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]