Talk:Strong two bid

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The Strong 2 bid used in Acol has more features than just 21 points and the definition given does not distinguish between a strong two bid and a 2 no trump bid. A good suit, eight playing tricks and an unbalanced hand is a better but imperfect description. It would be nice to make reference to the main systems that use Strong two bids, which include Acol, English Standard Acol (the one taught by the English Bridge Union and their associated clubs) as well as variants such as Benjaminised Acol and Reverse Benjamin that both employ an artificial minor to describe an unspecified strong 2 bid. The implications of employing a strong two are interesting. For example, because there are fewer ways to pre-empt, Strong two players tend to open at the one level more often than weak two players. On the other hand, they have more tools to accurately describe their stronger hands than in a system like SAYC so may be able to find Slam and Game contracts more readily. Finally, I suggest that the last sentence in the first section (which runs over three lines) be re-written for clarity. Buzzilla (talk) 23:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You make some excellent points, this article is clearly just a stub (the start of something good maybe). Go ahead and upgrade it along the lines you mentioned but, if you can, introduce some citations and keep personal opinion to the minimum. Abtract (talk) 21:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]