Talk:Stretch marks
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Fraud Links
[edit]The link at the bottom is clearly a phishing site, so I have removed it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.43.182.33 (talk) 21:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Had to remove it again, it popped back up. 125.238.237.154 (talk) 07:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Cleanup
[edit]Cleaned up a bit, put in commas, etc. --Ebb 02:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
And then I took one line regarding cures from the first section to the section about cures. - Veeliam 17:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Merge with Striae
[edit]support - i'd support the proposed merge between Stretch marks and striae, since they seem to be the same thing. I'm no expert though, maybe there is a subtle distinction? Spute 21:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- The external links seemed to indicate they are the same. No one has raised an objection in ten days, so I merged them. Thanks.--Chaser T 09:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Another meaning?
[edit]Striae also means those wavy hazy lines you see in the air, right?
Trofolastin
[edit]Just wanted to mention I have replaced a deleted reference to trofolastin in the article under prevention and cure. I feel that Trofolastin should be included as it is the only published controlled study I could find which empirically tested the efficacy of topical creams on the prevention of stretchmarks in what is a multi $m industry.
The editor who removed the reference made a comment that mentioning Trofolastin is a 'major product push' and that trofolastin is available all over the internet. I do not feel this is accurate. The product is a prescription item and is not available outside of Spain. However, importantly, its ingredients are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Griffibo (talk • contribs) 14:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC).
Contradicts
[edit]The article kind of contradicts itself. In the first section it says it is not due to stretching of the skin. In the second section is says it is due to increased glucocorticoids in the blood stream keeping the skin from remaining taut due to execessive stretching. Am I crazy? [[TheAngriestPharmacist]] 03:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
this is exactly the problem here. Obviously some debate exists and should be referenced. People are trying to push a hormone theory while the physical stress is the obvious direct cause (and there needs to be some more analysis for facilitating causes). More research is needed. And this article is a good example of not enough checking of people who want to argue that some particular solution (usually their own) is the right one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.37.16.155 (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well, it seems like it's actually...both? This is what the Mayo Clinic has to say on the Causes of Stretch Marks (source is this link - http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/stretch-marks/basics/causes/con-20032624 ):
- "Stretch marks seem to be caused, literally, by a stretching of the skin. Stretch marks are more extreme when coupled with an increase in cortisone, a hormone produced by the adrenal glands. Cortisone weakens elastic fibers in the skin."
- So, that would seem to indicate that yes, they are caused by the physical stretching of skin, but, they are more noticeable, at least, when cortisone is present in higher quantities in the body...precisely because cortisone makes the skin less pliable, so it's more likely to tear and scar (i.e. form stretch marks/form worse stretch marks). It's kind of like saying a person is less likely to stop bleeding if they have hemophilia; the bleeding itself is caused by a wound either way, but it's the interruption of a "normal" bodily function (skin elasticity in the case of a high cortisone level, lack of a clotting factor in the case of hemophilia) that makes it worse. If that makes any sense.
- I'm pretty sure the Mayo Clinic is an acceptable Reliable Source for Wikipedia, yes? I feel like it should be used to clarify and support this article. I may or may not have time to Be Bold today but if I do not, I wanted to make sure the information is here :) 71.42.2.195 (talk) 22:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
External links
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I wanted to recommend an external link to a site that provides clinical medical images of conditions (including striae). Please take a look and if the group feels there's value, please add the reference. This site is linked to from MedlinePlus as well as other information resources looking to provide high quality medical images to help explain a topic. Medical pictures of stretch marks - VisualDxHealth 208.3.217.201 (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The above recommendation seems valid. The pictures on this site are used by the national library of medicine, so they are vetted by a government org, and selected over other possible sources. I am in favor of this recommendation. 76.229.94.42 (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Silvery white?
[edit]The intro line says stretch marks are a form of scarring on the skin with a silvery white hue. Is this actually correct? Wouldn't the mark only be a silvery white hue if the person was white or light skinned? I doubt a darker skinned person would have slivery white stretch marks? Can someone provide a source for this? Itsmeiam (talk) 12:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I can't provide a source either way, but my partner is aboriginal and has stretsch marks on his hips, and they are darker than the surrounding skin. I'll look into finding a source later if I remember. 203.35.82.133 (talk) 11:13, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Pic does not work
[edit]I've tried to add this picture [[Image:Schwangerschaftsstreifen.JPG]] (see also here: [1]) as an example of stretch marks but for some unknown reason it does not "take". Doing a "show preview" shows no picture and even some text is disappearing. What's wrong withthis picture, or rather what's wrong with the English wiki? On other wiki's it does show without problems. --VanBurenen (talk) 15:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- It appears that this image is "blacklisted": [2]. What's going on? I've not heard of this before. Since when does en:wiki blacklist images that are on commons, and where is this voted on or listed with motivation? --VanBurenen (talk) 09:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Working now.. Its to stop vandalism of other pages of pictures that could be found inappropriate. - FatM1ke (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
is the breast really neccessary?
[edit]We already have a picture. If we MUST include another one, there are other areas that are stretch mark prone that could be shown. Why a breast? Pstanton 03:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstanton (talk • contribs)
- As I mentioned 3 days ago, I question the usefulness of that picture as we already have a picture with much more visible stretch marks, and if a second is really necessary, I personally feel that something that shows the stretch marks better. I feel like the as the article itself doesn't explicitly have breasts as a topic, it would be better to use something like a picture of the shoulders or arms with stretch marks. Pstanton 01:11, 13 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstanton (talk • contribs)
I agree but we really should sign our usernames when we leave messages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.171.242 (talk) 19:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
stretch marks..pregnancy and adolescence
[edit]Dont despair, firstly let me pass on my pregnancy tips... apply a vitamin E cream over your stomach and lower back throughout your pregnancy. I foolishly only applied it to my abdomen and now have a ridged' striped back !! No marks on my tummy though ! Also use on your boobs ( I forgot about them too and, yes, you've guessed it,...Stripey )
I have a 13 year old daughter who has developed stretch marks and has been teased about them ( note to self to stop this overwhelming development of loathing all other teenagers syndrome!) I have to help her, thought I would try this bio - oil ?? Has anyone got any ideas ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jymum (talk • contribs) 22:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Article merged: See old talk-page here.Klbrain (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Bold merging in Striae distensae
[edit]The old talk page is here. Klbrain (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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