Talk:Streatham portrait/GA1

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 22:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to take a look through this one. J Milburn (talk) 22:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not clear on what is meant by "barbs".

Probably an Americanism that snuck by. Tried "Challenged each other". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The description of the Houghton portrait mentions that it's one of three- this one is the second, but what's the third? Also, is the Houghton portrait actually black and white, or is that just our photo of it?

Three looks to be incorrect; the source gives two. As for black-and-white, Edwards appears to have taken the image from a previous publication, perhaps a catalogue, as he has not been allowed to look at it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The date of the engraving was also taken into consideration" Sorry, what engraving? Do you mean the damage?

The age of the engraving (i.e. was it contemporaneous with the rest of the painting or not). Changed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Mould Gallery worth a redlink/explanation?

Have added a clause and link to Philip Mould. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Edwards likewise argues that the portrait was not of Jane" Awkward tense shift

argues --> argued. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask what makes you sure J. Stephan Edwards's website is reliable?

Edwards completed his dissertation on Jane, entitled "Jane the Queen: A New Consideration of Lady Jane Grey, England's Nine-Days Queen" in 2007 at the University of Colorado; it won the "Graduate Committee on the Arts and Humanities Dissertation Award" from the university (source). He has published in History Today (here; about another portrait of Jane), and provided a review for a children's book on the subject (here). Paula R. Backscheider cites Some Grey Matter in her book Elizabeth Singer Rowe and the Development of the English Novel (Johns Hopkins University Press; 2013), again about Grey. Eric Ives mentions his views in Lady Jane Grey: A Tudor Mystery, and Yale Alumni Magazine quotes him on the Yale miniature here. Some less reliable sites out there also cite him regarding Jane; this one gives a fairly in-depth interview. As such, I think (at least for matters related to Jane), he passes WP:SPS. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Generally seems very strong; seems I can't fault your articles. I was surprised to see the lack of peer-reviewed publications cited, but then a search revealed why! J Milburn (talk) 23:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know! Nothing but popular media. I think, before I go to the next level, I'm going to ask User:SchroCat or someone else to check and see if any other news sources are available on the pay services. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Will do – on Monday, if that's OK. - SchroCat (talk) 00:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Certainly not a rush. Thank you very much! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Butting in, try and weave the two links in the "See also" section into the article body. And good luck; its shaping up as a fine article. Ceoil (talk) 09:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, Ceoil. I can't think of a way to work the Streatham Worthies into the article without going off topic. The link to Jane's cultural impact would be placeable, as a piped link, and I might do that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still struggling with "The age of the engraving was also taken into consideration, and found to be contemporaneous with the rest of the painting." What engraving? J Milburn (talk) 13:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Facepalm . Okay, I'm a dolt... inscription, above her shoulder. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I'm happy that this meets the GA criteria. If this continues to improve, all the better, but I feel no guilt promoting it at this time! J Milburn (talk) 14:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody could ever describe you as a dolt Crisco, but whatever. Ceoil (talk) 14:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ceoil. To be honest I'm having trouble thinking of a way to link Cultural depictions of Lady Jane Grey in a way that flows. Just tacking on "in their depictions" to the last sentence of #Subject feels a little forced. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]