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Doesn't explain the Constitutional Amendment process

This article doesn't really clarify how the California Constitution can be amended. If it's by a simple majority vote, it doesn't seem like the protections contained in it are very strong...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.36 (talk) 04:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Caveats: Things That Need Looking At

I am not a lawyer, as will be readily apparent to readers who are. This means that much of my wording is likely imprecise. I know I've used the wrong cite format for the various court paperwork, but at least I got something down that's clear. In places I read the court documents and summarized them, I think clearly and fairly, but at some point I worry that that approaches WP:OR. Any and all assistance welcome. --Joe Decker (talk) 07:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the amici section could use a list of notable amici, pro and con. --Joe Decker (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify

I do see some legal talk in the article is there a way to make it more understandable to the average reader? Knowledgekid87 12:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We'd be happy to clean up the legal talk you see. However, I am familiar enough with basic legalese that I don't notice it. If you get the chance, please point out what words we should clean up and we will look into it.—Shattered Gnome (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead

The lead in this article has the same problems as I encountered on the Proposition 8 mother article. I think that the plaintiffs, a partial history, and the reasons for lawsuit and its contents should be included in the lead. Perhaps somebody with more experience in law could work on that? --haha169 (talk) 01:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Demonstrations and events

I'm removing this sentence:

Amnesty International has also condemned Proposition 8, saying that "states should never withhold rights based on minority status".[35]

because it is neither a demonstration nor an event. If you want to insert it elsewhere in the article, do so with a balanced point of view. This means, you must represent both sides. Ejnogarb (talk) 19:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Semi protect?

Given on how recent events could stir up emotions on both sides I would protect this article in the near future (or sooner). Knowledgekid87 21:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RfPP --haha169 (talk) 18:31, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that the decision could be announced any day, and send flocks of saboteurs here, I agree. Ejnogarb (talk) 16:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But not now - ~~AfD~~ RfD doesn't accept premature nominations. --haha169 (talk) 04:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's usually the policy of the Court to announce 1-2 days in advance of the decision that the decision will be announced, maybe we can semi-protect then? --Joe Decker (talk) 01:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfPP still doesn't accept premature nominations. You could try - maybe they've changed that rule or they might give an exception for this given previous precedent on California, Vermont, and Iowa articles...but I'm not sure if it would work. In any case, waiting to see if there actually is any vandalism would solve a lot of problems. --haha169 (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Federal suit

Doesn't this article need to also address federal lawsuit to overturn Prop 8 that was filed after the CA Supreme Court decision?[1] 75.76.213.106 (talk) 01:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My preference would be to make that a separate article. This article is already fairly long, and a single court case per article is fairly standard for law articles. --Joe Decker (talk) 01:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Proposition 8 article mentions the legal challenges (Strauss v. Horton, and the federal suit). I don't think Strauss v. Horton (the CA case) needs to refer to the federal case. Dr.enh (talk) 01:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article was only recently moved to Strauss v. Horton; originally it was an article for all legal challenges to Prop 8. 75.76.213.106 (talk) 06:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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