Talk:StickK
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[edit]OK, so "This article or section is written like an advertisement." and why is it still online when other pages deemed as "advertisement" are just deleted???
There is a real discrimination in the way articles are treated ...
Petienne (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Jdgrimshaw's edits
[edit]Originally listed at User talk:HelloAnnyong
Ha. I have some subject matter expertise because I wrote about stickK in my book. I happen to know that the current history is somewhat incorrect and so I updated it, citing my book. That's hardly gratuitous advertising for my "article" as you suggested. And I didn't just re-add language. I look the previous feedback seriously and removed the "peacock" language the last reverter complained about. I think you've way over-reached here. I don't understand why. Jdgrimshaw (talk) 01:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)jdgrimshaw
- Actually, you should read the conflict of interest guideline. Since you're adding text and citing your own book, we can count you as having a conflict of interest. Really you should wait 'til someone else reads your book or whatever, and then independently decides to add the text. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yup. Read it. Did you? Here's what it says: "Citing oneself: Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies." My changes improve the accuracy of the piece. I fixed it once in response to an earlier reverter's useful criticism. How does your reversion promote wikipedia's goals, exactly?Jdgrimshaw (talk) 17:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)jdgrimshaw
- Actually, here's an even better reason why that text doesn't belong in the article: it's a copyright violation. More specifically, it's copied verbatim from page 148; link. Copyrighted text doesn't get in. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 18:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yup. Read it. Did you? Here's what it says: "Citing oneself: Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies." My changes improve the accuracy of the piece. I fixed it once in response to an earlier reverter's useful criticism. How does your reversion promote wikipedia's goals, exactly?Jdgrimshaw (talk) 17:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)jdgrimshaw
Sheesh, you are really stretching to come up with a rationale for your original reversion, since it's not exactly verbatim and more importantly I AM THE COPYRIGHT OWNER of the cited source. Why not just admit you over-reached? Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure it was well-intentioned. It looks to me like you'd rather be "right" than have the page be as accurate as possible. (But does this mean that if I do a bit more paraphrasing of my own copyrighted work, you'll let the updated changes stand...or will you continue scouring for another contrived rationale for your reversion?)Jdgrimshaw (talk) 22:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)jdgrimshaw
- Ha. If you liked that, then you'll like this even more. WP:PARAPHRASE talks about how slightly changing the text still doesn't get around copyright issues. And, I'm sorry to say, I don't think you saying "I want my text to be included here, I am the author of the book" counts as giving up the rights to it. For argument's sake you may not be who you claim to be, and there's no way of really verifying that you are. Now having said that, let me work with your edits and see what I can come up with. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 23:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, done. I think that gets the basic point of your book across. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 00:01, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no. They didn't go to grad school together. It is now more inaccurate than ever. I will work on it.Jdgrimshaw (talk) 00:12, 11 June 2010 (UTC)jdgrimshaw
- Alright, it's fixed now. There's absolutely no reason to say that Karlan was in graduate school and Ayres wasn't; the important part is that they helped each other. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 00:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Let me ask you this: "During graduate school at M.I.T., Karlan and a colleague " - is Ayres the colleague here, or is it someone else? If it is him, then we should just state that; saying "a colleague" is vague. And if it's not him, why is it significant that Ayres had people send him reminders? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 00:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
No, Ayres was not the colleague. There is no source anywhere that says he was as far as I know, this edit came from the wiki editor but not from any media source or primary source. Nudge provides the correct information. "Why is it significant that Ayres had people send him reminders?": It is not. Ayres' book Supercrunchers and new Carrots and Sticks book tell the story of the creation of stickK, and the reminders system Ayres used helps explain why Ayres decided to help be a co-founder of stickK, that the stickK way of thinking resonated with Ayres. I have deleted it, and if HaeB feels this is significant and essential to the story behind stickK then HaeB will make edits I suppose. I'd encourage HaeB to read Ayres' book though (Random House, September release) so that the wiki site is accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.221.180.168 (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Unreachable Site?
[edit]As of now, the site is unreachable: https://stickk.com/
This is what https://whois.uanic.name/eng/status/stickk.com/ says:
Server HTTP:
STICKK.COM
Response Time: 1.61 s.
Last Down: unknown
Status: Website stickk.com is UP and reachable
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Question:
Does anyone know if the site is still active?
--Leonardo T. Cardillo (talk) 16:24, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Leonardo T. Cardillo, I can get to their front web page. Not sure about stuff beyond that (signing in and such). AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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