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– The articles as currently titled and hatnoted imply that the Steve of Steve Smith (baseball) is not a baseball coach when in fact he is. Both Steves had similar playing careers in that neither made the majors, but both are notable for their coaching careers. —KuyaBriBriTalk14:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that these need better titles, but the (baseball, born XYZ) thing looks kind of ugly, would using the full first name together with the middle names be better
No, sub-dabs / incomplete dabs (see WP:INCOMPDAB) aren't recommended, although a redirect to Steve Smith dab, or a section of it, e.g. Steve Smith#Sports or Steve Smith#Baseball is really useful. The page title here may look ugly to you, but it's the standard naming convention. Middle names are discouraged unless they're commonly known as that, mainly because it makes them more difficult to find. The user would have to know the person's middle name in order to be able to find the article first time, and that's unlikely. I support the new titles suggested by Kuyabribi. Boleyn (talk) 05:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to point out that according to the Steven Smith dab page there are currently articles on American football, association football (soccer), and cricket players titled "Steve/Stephen/Steven Smith (__ born 19xx)". That is why my proposal went with the "born" convention instead of something else like "professional baseball coach"/"college baseball coach". —KuyaBriBriTalk14:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kuyabribri's suggestion. Using full names would make these articles too difficult to find for most as neither goes by "Stephen" and most would not know either's middle name. Mizzou415 (talk) 16:54, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. BDD's proposal would be ok too. Oppose KTo288's proposal; unless the middle name (or initial) is part of the WP:COMMONNAME, we try to avoid them, as the they are not commonly known, and thus less likely to bring any clarity to viewers who search for either guy. HandsomeFella (talk) 11:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
