Talk:Steve Brine

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

This page is about a politician who is running for office or has recently run for office, is in office and campaigning for re-election, or is involved in some current political conflict or controversy. For that reason, this article is at increased risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Politics of the United Kingdom Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Politics of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Politics of the United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomPolitics of the United Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hampshire Mid‑importance

	Hampshire portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hampshire, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hampshire on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HampshireWikipedia:WikiProject HampshireTemplate:WikiProject HampshireHampshire articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hadyn Burton

Added a section with references to the Hadyn Burton protest outside Steve Brine's Constituency Office, the video of that protest, his resulting arrest, imprisonment and death. Given Steve Brine's role this is highly pertinent to his biography, that a constituent involved in a peaceful protest outside the MP's office would be subject to arrest, imprisonment, attack in prison, and was then found hanging in his cell. Two references included.

While adding this, I notice the page may be an autobiography rather than a biography. The page needs some cleaning up and I may do that later. For example, Stephen Brine goes by the name "Steve Brine", but reference to him in this page varies from "Brine", "Mr Brine", "Steve" or his full name: it looks untidy. Steve Brine is the name the MP goes under, so I propose that this be used everywhere. Due to the death in custody, any edits I do will be under Anon instead of my Wikipedia editors ID, using an internet proxy or VPN 37.152.196.188 (talk) 10:23, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I notice 185.53.224.150 has tried to removed this material, claiming "removed exceptionally unreliably sourced and only marginally relevant story concerning a protestor". The death of a protestor as a result of protesting outside his offices, and the imprisonment of the protestor as a direct result of a complaint raised by his staff, is by no means just "marginally relevant", especially given the MP's role in the Ministry for Justice. As regards the references, these are to Fathers4Justice site and to the original material posted by the now deceased person, including the actual video of the protest - it is hardly therefore "exceptionally unreliable". If this is removed again I will complain directly to a moderator. 37.152.196.188 (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Voting in House of Commons

Have taken this to the talk page as suggested. I believe this is WP:NOTABLE, especially to local voters. Although perhaps this pattern of voting is in line with his conservative colleagues, I believe the Winchester constituents, and those interested in Brine, would be interested to hear how he has voted on key issues like welfare and the NHS. I would appreciate if you could expand on why you think this isn't notable? I didn't "select" the votes at all - this is all online on TheyWorkForYou. Anyone is welcome to add any other of his votes from there. TheyWorkForYou is actually more of a secondary source - they produce summaries of how an MP has voted on given issues from the primary source of the gov.uk voting information. LoudLizard (📞 | contribs | ✉) 11:34, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An automatically-generated summary of primary sourced data doesn't qualify as an indication of notability with respect to a particular person's political career, sorry. This debate has been had numerous times in the past on numerous MPs' pages. His voters can always following the link to TheyWorkForYou or PublicWhip at the bottom of the page if they wish to check out his votes; this page is intended to be a biography rather than a voter guide. The majority of information you've included simply indicates that he's voted with the very well-publicised platform of his party. If there's newspaper coverage (preferably national newspapers) of comments he's made on particular issues or to justify particular decisions then that might be more relevant to include. Dtellett (talk) 11:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]