Talk:Stephen Gaetz

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External link to Canadian Homelessness Research Network is broken (top-level domain is dead). Preliminary searching suggests that homelesshub.ca is the new home for this content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onshisan (talk • contribs) 14:01, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

homelesshub.ca/content/about-us seems to be an appropriate link; however, when I try to update it I find that homelesshub.ca is blacklisted. Will update later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onshisan (talk • contribs) 23:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blacklisting of homelesshub.ca?

I would like to request that an experienced administrator explain why this hub is blacklisted? It has been for many years. homelesshub.ca is a useful source of specific information on homelessness and poverty in Canada.Oceanflynn (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My request to have homelesshub.ca was declined at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist November 4, 2017 with the following discussion:

@Oceanflynn:

Declined,

Defer to Whitelist for specific links on this domain, specifically 'homelesshub.ca/about-us'. Regarding why this is (still) blacklisted?: because there was a whole sockfarm that was spamming this site, while there is only limited use for it (as the official website of the subject, and a few references). When sockfarms and/or multiple vested editors are getting involved, we tend to control, basically per wmf: Terms of Use. By the way, homelesshub.ca is not the homepage of the subject Stephen Gaetz, it is the homepage of the Canadian Homelessness Research Network, with an official website of a subject we generally mean a site that is about the subject, controlled by the subject (which for some subjects does not exist, or could boil down to a personal twitter). In this case, I would remove the link to homelesshub.ca or whatever, and I would decline the whitelisting for such a request. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 05:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note, homelesshub.ca is not the homepage of the Canadian Homelessness Research Network, it is http://homelessresearch.net/. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 05:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Beetstra for all of your work on black and whitelists. I was unable to locate the Wikipedia items that archive the original problem with the sockfarms and/or multiple vested editors. When did this happen? It had to have been before 2014 but after 2007 when the hub site was created. Are these vested editors still active on this largely academic we hub which provides sources on homelessness in Canada? Are current valid researchers being punished for something that happened years ago? Was it a case of students who were overzealous and who are no longer involved? Was it a case of academics who are still involved but overly passionate at the time? Have they been "reformed" to comply with Wikipedia standards? This site is not a commercial site. It is a site for academics and researchers looking for reliable sources for reliable content. The name associated with homeless hub is still listed as Stephen Gaetz. His work is supported by SSHRC grants in Canada which is the leading federal government funding agency for postgraduate/academic grants. SSHRC and NSERC are highly competitive so only top researchers on the most topical questions receive these grants. What were these puppets trying to promote? Ideas? Where can we see this discussion about homelessness that was so one-sided? I would like to request input from other editors who will take the time to investigate this fully. I have never worked for, have any connection to Gaetz, the university he works for, his organization, homelesshub.ca. However, I am interested in issues related to poverty, homelessness in general. Did you actually take time to revisit this site in November 2017 and examine its content?

I respectfully and formally request more investigation into this from other administrators. In this case it performs the function of gatekeeping, blocking access to Wikipedia readers (and editors) to a gateway of current, valuable Canadian federally SSHRC-funded academic research on a topic that is so often overlooked. Kind regards. Oceanflynn (talk) 15:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC) Oceanflynn (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]