Talk:Stephen Badlam

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that after leaving the military, Major Stephen Badlam became famed for his cabinetry? Source: Swan, Mabel Munson (May 1954). "General Stephan Badlam - cabinet and lookingglass maker". Antiques. 65 (5): 380–383. https://archive.org/details/sim_magazine-antiques_1954-05_65_5
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Margarita Ortega (magonist)

Created by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 21:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stephen Badlam; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Which other sources are being referenced in the {{efn}}s in § Early life?
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - You don't mention any copyvio check at Template:Did you know nominations/Margarita Ortega (magonist). Did you do one?
Overall: @Generalissima: Two pretty small things. Otherwise they're good, although the interestingness is marginal. I would say that simultaneously being a cabinetmaker, justice of the peace, and militia general is more interesting. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 02:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oh, also, the Codman cite is a 403 for me. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 02:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
  • @Tamzin: So sorry, forgot to get back to this until now! Yes, I did do a copyvio check on Ortega, apologies for not noting that in the review. I removed the first efn because it appears to just be the one source that says it, and the rest agree on Milton. Added citations to the other EFN. As for a better hook, you're right on that one. How's this;

    ALT1: ... that Stephen Badlam simultaneously served as a justice of the peace and brigadier-general in addition to his primary trade of building cabinets?Source: Bjorke, Ethel Hall (1957). The Cabinetmakers of America. New York: Bonanza Books. p. 35 https://archive.org/details/cabinetmakersofa0000unse/

  • Generalissima (talk) 03:44, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
  • @Generalissima: Maybe tighten up that prose a little, just that the cabinet-maker Stephen Badlam? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 21:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
    • @Tamzin: Good idea.

      ALT1a...that the cabinet-maker Stephen Badlam simultaneously served as a justice of the peace and brigadier-general?

    • Generalissima (talk) 22:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

    Works for me! for ALT1a (renumbered for clarity). -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|she) 00:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Stephen Badlam/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: 3df (talk · contribs) 19:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

As you know, this is my first GA review, but I'm ready to try it out. This is an enjoyable article about an American Revolutionary veteran and furniture maker, Stephen Badlam. I summarized some possible issues or omissions with the article in this list:

• The lead says Badlam did surveying work before the war. Is there any more information about this work that could go in the Early life section? There's very little here about his first 20 years.
  • "Ezra Badlam (1746–1788), who later served as an artillery chief and colonel during the Revolutionary War." Consider deleting this sentence or moving it somewhere else. Maybe you could bring it up in the Personal life section.

     Removed -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

  • Is there any more information about Mary available? (The article also doesn't mention her death, except in the infobox.)
• You have Badlam's military career listed under his early life. Even if he was primarily a cabinetmaker, this looks like a very impressive couple years as a successful officer. It may warrant a level 2 heading of its own, with the details in the infobox as well.

   Fixed I put both his mil and furniture career as subheadings under a master section titled "Career". -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

  • "While stationed in New York, he became acquainted with Alexander Hamilton, and was appreciated for his engineering abilities." Who appreciated Badlam, and what about his abilities earned him this praise?
  • "Here, was tasked with building additional fortifications." Consider wording this differently. If he's fortifying a fortified hill, would it be appropriate to say that he was upgrading the fortifications? Is there any possibility that Badlam's experience with surveying and cabinetmaking suited him to this job (RS permitting)?

     Fixed -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

  • The photo of the dresser is in the Revolutionary War section, although in the desktop browser it appears to be for the section about his furniture work. It should be moved to that section proper, because mobile and screen reader users visiting that section won't get to the image at all, unless they find it at the bottom of the preceding section.

     Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

• The cabinetry section suggests that Badlam was very good at what he did. Do any sources explain why his work is so good, or what characteristics you could expect to see in it? You do mention that some of it is in Heppelwhite style.
  • "As well as cabinetry, he built and sold picture frames, chairs, windows, looking-glasses, and advertised skills in molding and gilding." The molding and gilding skills might read better as a separate sentence.
  • "Badlam had multiple apprentices, including Abiel White and Abner Hersey who became notable cabinetmakers in their own rights." Consider "Badlam's apprentices included Abiel White and Abner Hersey."

     Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

  • There's a paragraph mostly about one piece of furniture for Derby. Is this an especially important work of his? And, are there any other interesting works attributed to him?
• Consider mentioning in the house photo caption that this was the house Badlam partially shared as an annual school. (If that's really the house in question. Otherwise, the photo might be a better fit for the Personal life section)
• "Badlam had seven children, all with his first wife, Mary:" The article doesn't mention a second wife, except in the infobox. Can information about her be added?
  • Sadly no information about her besides the year they married. - G
• (The infobox includes Badlam's mark. It looks like a crop from a black-and-white photo. Would it be appropriate for this to be traced to just the text? It might be easier to read that way. I can do that if you'd like.)

So, this isn't a comprehensive list, and I don't know which of these points I've brought up are due or necessary for the article (or available for expansion from the sources you have access to). But I am left wanting from a reading of the article, particularly about Badlam's wives and his art style, so I wanted to bring this stuff up before completing a review.  On hold 3df (talk) 00:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello! I'm a random editor and not actually the prime editor btw, but I've decided to toss my hat in the ring and try to help out a bit here and there where I could. -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

@3df, I see there's been no motion on this review at all yet this year. Are you able to close it? -- asilvering (talk) 01:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, I didn't forget about the review. I'm an inexperienced reviewer and want to be sure that I get it right. 3df (talk) 04:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, you put it on hold on 3 December, and it's usually expected that GA reviews are completed within a week. If you think the article passes the GA criteria, you should pass it. If you think it doesn't, you should fail it. The nominator has been completely unresponsive. But I see they're not completely inactive - @Generalissima, what's going on? -- asilvering (talk) 06:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@3df: Completely forgot this existed, lol. Is there anything left to rectify in terms of GA status. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Don't think so, the article as it is right now meets the GA criteria and there's no better place to read about the subject than right here. Well done, with thanks also to Dcdiehardfan. 3df (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)