Talk:Stefan Grand Prix
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Cite Error
[edit]I can't for the life of me find it. 'Lil help? Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Use of F1 Template
[edit]Stefan GP is not a team in the current F1 season and this template should not be used. WP deals with facts not the dreams of some guy who has acquired a F1 car and engine. If you are not convinced the SGP is not a F1 team I suggest you contact the FIA. If and when they are announced as a entry in F1 then and only then should the template be used. Bjmullan (talk) 12:49, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, although it should be noted that SGP are a more plausible F1 outfit than one or two of the teams that do have places on the grid. At least they have cars and drivers and are in a position to race, for example. When they get their place on the grid, they can be added to the template and the template can be used on this page.. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:49, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
F1 Team?
[edit]This article needs updating. This is NOT a F1 team but a failed entry for the 2010 season and that's what the article should say. How can this be a racing team when they don't even tyres! I will remove the F1 category to start with. Bjmullan (talk) 22:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- A team can still be an F1 team even if they don't compete in F1. The fact that they hadn't fixed a tyre contract is not relevant - they had cars, crew, drivers etc - more than USF1 or Hispania, in fact. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- I have a football in the back garden and a football strip but that doesn't make me a premier football team. Also Stefan GP didn't construct the car but merely purchased the remains of the Toyota team. This is an encyclopedia not a motor magazine or a place for rumours and heresy. The tag will be removed. Please state your case here with facts rather than dreams. Check out the link of the new Hispania with tyres and an FIA F1 entry.[1] Dream on. Bjmullan (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- Firstly, please be aware that your tone is more than a little patronising, so drop it. I do not require you to tell me that this is an encyclopedia. Secondly, your analogy is a non sequitur. Stefan GP are the constructors of the car because it is named after them. That is the rule of racing car constructors. If it had been a Toyota, they would never have been allowed to promote it as anything else. That is a fact if facts are what you are looking for. I am well aware that Hispania have tyres (they come with an entry) and an F1 entry. They also had somebody else build their car and are in no position to even turn a wheel until the first race. I reiterate that a team does not need an entry to the FIA World Championship to be an F1 team. Whether you accept that as fact or not does not make it any less true. Check out Dome (constructor), First Racing and Safir Engineering - none had F1 World Championship entries, but all, like Stefan GP, are F1 constructors. I suggest you recategorise the article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- As far as I am concern all of the above should also have the category removed. So thanks for the heads up on these as well. The ONLY thing that makes some collection of people and bits a F1 team is an official entry given by the FIA and the only thing that makes it a racing team is that it has actual raced. And just for your information tone is a word to describe something associated with speech and I think the word you may be looking for is inference. Bjmullan (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are incorrect, and you will be reverted if you remove the categories. Safir did race in F1 races, and they all built F1 cars. The category is F1 constructors not F1 entrants. It might be worth you understanding that at some point. And no, what I mean is tone. Tone - the quality of something that reveals the attitudes and presuppositions of the author. I don't like your tone. Ok? Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you don't like my tone and I also stand corrected as you are correct regarding the category. Hope we can still be friends ;-) Bjmullan (talk) 00:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. F1 editors need to stick together :) Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you don't like my tone and I also stand corrected as you are correct regarding the category. Hope we can still be friends ;-) Bjmullan (talk) 00:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are incorrect, and you will be reverted if you remove the categories. Safir did race in F1 races, and they all built F1 cars. The category is F1 constructors not F1 entrants. It might be worth you understanding that at some point. And no, what I mean is tone. Tone - the quality of something that reveals the attitudes and presuppositions of the author. I don't like your tone. Ok? Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- As far as I am concern all of the above should also have the category removed. So thanks for the heads up on these as well. The ONLY thing that makes some collection of people and bits a F1 team is an official entry given by the FIA and the only thing that makes it a racing team is that it has actual raced. And just for your information tone is a word to describe something associated with speech and I think the word you may be looking for is inference. Bjmullan (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- Firstly, please be aware that your tone is more than a little patronising, so drop it. I do not require you to tell me that this is an encyclopedia. Secondly, your analogy is a non sequitur. Stefan GP are the constructors of the car because it is named after them. That is the rule of racing car constructors. If it had been a Toyota, they would never have been allowed to promote it as anything else. That is a fact if facts are what you are looking for. I am well aware that Hispania have tyres (they come with an entry) and an F1 entry. They also had somebody else build their car and are in no position to even turn a wheel until the first race. I reiterate that a team does not need an entry to the FIA World Championship to be an F1 team. Whether you accept that as fact or not does not make it any less true. Check out Dome (constructor), First Racing and Safir Engineering - none had F1 World Championship entries, but all, like Stefan GP, are F1 constructors. I suggest you recategorise the article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- I have a football in the back garden and a football strip but that doesn't make me a premier football team. Also Stefan GP didn't construct the car but merely purchased the remains of the Toyota team. This is an encyclopedia not a motor magazine or a place for rumours and heresy. The tag will be removed. Please state your case here with facts rather than dreams. Check out the link of the new Hispania with tyres and an FIA F1 entry.[1] Dream on. Bjmullan (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
F1 2015
[edit]An editor has added a section on the possibility of Stefan having another go at F1 in 2015. However, I think that a throwaway "believed to be" comment at the end of an Autosport article on the possibility of a Haas Racing entry is a bit thin as evidence goes. What do you think? Britmax (talk) 09:45, 18 January 2014 (UTC)