Talk:Static Age

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Mixes

This article mentions the Jerry Only approved mixes that are bass prominent. But these mixes were circulating in bootlegs during the late 80's and early 90's. An online article said that Danzig played some tracks from the Static Age sessions in the late 80's on a radio show and I suspect that this is where the bootlegs came from (they sounded like they came from the radio) and the mix sounded exactly the same as the "bass heavy Jerry Only approved" mixes. I think this is why I liked the bootleg mixes better than the Legacy of Bruitality mixes despite the really bad quality of the boots (but none of us knew that static age would ever be officially released). So correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Jerry Only approved mixes are the originals. Gabriel77 14:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

in the doorway

In the doorway was "never bootlegged"? Then how was I able to download it?Whotookthatguy 12:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd venture a guess that bit of information is referring to the instance before the advent of its release on compact disc and in an age where many individuals with a computer have software intended for ripping audio to their hard drives. 75.2.56.35 05:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me that this page doesn't exactly sound too wikipedia-ish. Sure, there's a lot of history behind Static Age, but there's still too much info, and too much of it sounds polarizing and commenting instead of descripting. You'd almost think it was copied straight from another page... 69.243.28.125 06:4 1, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I wrote the article. In August of 2006 I toned it down somewhat to make it more fact-oriented. Having never read Wiki much before I didn't grasp the objective tone Wiki articles had when I wrote it last year. In regards to "In The Doorway," the song remained unmixed on Franche Coma's mix-tape (not to be confused with a cassette tape, which can be copied and thus bootlegged) from the moment it was recorded until the moment the tape was used for the Static Age disc on the box-set. Other songs were mixed and prepared for release, even if they weren't released at the time, such as "Hybrid Moments," etc., which have been bootlegged. "In The Doorway's" instrument/vocal tracks were not mixed into playable form, so not even the band members had copies of this song on cassette or vinyl. This means that no bootlegs of the song were available because the song was unavailable in any form until the song was mixed and released on CD in 1997. A downloadable mp3 derived from a commercially sold product is not a "bootleg." Pirated, but not bootlegged.

As for "Jerry Only-approved" mixes, he did work with Caroline more than than the other members concerning the Box Set, so in a sense all then-unreleased tracks on the Box are Jerry Only approved. This term is not meant to suggest Jerry Only mixed his bass heavy at the expense of the other members, but that possibility is there. Glenn Danzig has repeatedly and verifiably (evidence is described on Misfits Central's Sessions page, and by ex-associates of Danzig such as Eerie Von) overdubbed and de-emphasized ex-Misfits' contributions. "Jerry Only-approved" should indicate that the Static Age mix is approved by him (and other Misfits) as the original and proper mix. However, we do not know for sure just why Danzig did not use those "bass-heavy" mixes for releases such as Bullet, Beware, and Legacy. As author of the songs, perhaps he never wanted the bass that prominent in the first place. It is possible Jerry Only took the opportunity when it came to increase the bass's presence in the mix, (to the original mix found on bootlegs, but an original mix rejected by Danzig both during and after the band) and that possibility should be mentioned, though not stated as fact. "Bass heavy... Jerry Only approved... mix" is certainly true in strict fact, though we can only speculate on the reasons why, so I left it as is in the article. No bias against or towards Danzig or Jerry Only (and by extension, the other Misfits) is intended.

Finally, this article was not "copied straight from another page." I wrote it completely myself, immediately at the point of discovering there was no article for Static Age. All facts about the songs and mixes come from information derived from Misfits Central's sessionography pages. 162.93.199.2 18:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just want to thank the author for a cohesive, well-written article on a fine subject. Fiends everywhere owe you.

The real story on the "bass heaviness" of the Static Age released mixes vs. the Legacy of Brutality is simply that the bass player and the mix are different. The original Static Age mixes were used for the Bullet single, but subsequently when unreleased tracks from this session were used, they were remixed. For example, according to Misfits Central, Last Caress was remixed by Glenn and Bobby Steele for release on Beware. In the case of Legacy of Brutality, in 1985 Glenn overdubbed new bass tracks to replace Jerry's original and then remixed the tracks, resulting in the radically-different sounding versions. Misfits Central cites a 1986 article in Black Market. I've also seen Jerry remark (in a mid-90s issue of MAXIMUMROCKNROLL IIRC) on this, stating that he played a Rickenbacker bass on the original tracks and Glenn used a Fender P-Bass on the overdubbed version. JohnRBeatty 00:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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