Talk:Star Wars: The Last Jedi/GA1
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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 02:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 02:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Remove Frank Oz from the infobox since he's not in the billing block.
- [[Lucasfilm Ltd.]] → [[Lucasfilm|Lucasfilm Ltd.]]
- Not done per WP:NOTBROKEN and consistent with Episodes VII and IX. Chompy Ace 22:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- A reference is needed for the film being dedicated to Carrie Fisher as it doesn't appear in any other section.
- Link Star Wars: The Last Jedi (soundtrack) somewhere in "returned to compose the score" (maybe in "the score").
Plot
[edit]- Remove the comma after "dragged into space".
- Remove the comma after "the Jedi library".
Cast
[edit]- In the hatnote, swap List of Star Wars cast members and List of Star Wars characters per consistency with The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker.
- The first reference after "slot machine" is dead.
- The reference after "Force spirit" is dead.
- Is the reference after "Commander D'Acy" necessary since it's already cited at the end of the sentence?
- Lily Cole is not in this source.
- Replaced with the BFI. Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- The last paragraph in this section has some really short sentences. Try combining some.
Production
[edit]Development
[edit]- Link Star Wars, Lucasfilm, J. J. Abrams, The Force Awakens, Bob Iger, and Kathleen Kennedy.
- Is the quote from Kathleen Kennedy needed? Can it be changed to "In December, Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy said that the film had not been mapped out and..."?
- In that same sentence, the use of the phrase "with Johnson and that Johnson" seems repetitive. Try rewording or splitting the sentences.
- Done reworded Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- The sentence starting with "Abrams is an executive producer" seems out of place. Maybe change it to "Additionally, Abrams served as an executive producer".
- Combine the last two paragraphs in this section together and move January 23, 2017, to the beginning of the sentence it's in.
- The last sentence doesn't work without context. Add context and change "Carrie" to Carrie Fisher.
- "[[Kathleen Kennedy]]" → "[[Kathleen Kennedy (producer)|Kathleen Kennedy]]"
- Link Lucasfilm in the first sentence.
- "revealed this as" → "revealed that"
Writing
[edit]- Link Rey.
- "scene to Luke" → "scene to Luke Skywalker"
- Combine the last two paragraphs.
Casting
[edit]- The first reference after "playing a villain" is dead.
- Link Laura Dern, Kelly Marie Tran, and Yoda.
- "Tran plays" → "Tran would play"
Filming
[edit]- Link Skellig Michael, Pinewood Studios, and Star Wars Trilogy.
- The reference after "filming in Mexico" only mentions Mexico once, and links to this source from Excélsior, so I would cite that instead.
- Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 23:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Starting that same sentence with "In November 2014, Ivan Dunleavy, chief executive of Pinewood Studios, confirmed" seems misleading as the last part was from December 2015 and was said by Kathleen Kennedy. I suggest rewording, splitting, or just moving the last part farther down in #Filming.
Done reworded Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)- I didn't spot a change so this still feels misleading. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 00:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 02:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't spot a change so this still feels misleading. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 00:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "March 2016" is dead.
- Is "In September 2015, del Toro revealed that principal photography would begin in March 2016;[44] Kennedy later said filming would begin in January 2016.[7]" necessary? Both sentences contradict themselves, making it harder for readers, and the point is already made in the next paragraph.
- Done removed "Kennedy later said filming would begin in January 2016.[7]" sentence Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- In this source, there's no mention of filming in Bolivia taking place in July.
- Fixed removed date Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- "[[Star Wars#Prequel trilogy|prequel trilogy]]" → "[[Star Wars prequel trilogy|prequel trilogy]]"
- Bringing the Spanish source back change "at the Salar de Uyuni salt flats in Bolivia.[60]" to "at the Salar de Uyuni salt flats in Bolivia.[60] Additional filming took place in Mexico.[61]"
Music
[edit]- "Star Wars Celebration Europe" → "Star Wars Celebration Europe"
- The second reference in the first sentence is from June, so change "Kennedy announced" to "Kennedy confirmed".
- Link Star Wars sequel trilogy.
- Don't link conducting per WP:OVERLINK.
- The first reference after "the sessions" is dead.
Release
[edit]- This source doesn't mention Shrine Auditorium. I'm sure a better reference can be swapped in that does.
- Replaced with Los Angeles Daily News Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Marketing
[edit]- Remove "were released on October 12" as it's already mentioned.
- This section is really short so I would combine all three paragraphs.
- "The Last Jedi: Visual Dictionary" → "The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary" (the actual title)
Home media
[edit]- This subsection looks good.
- Already done Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]Box office
[edit]- "$712.6 million" → "$712.5 million"
- Fix the link in "seventh-biggest of all time".
- I think it's now the eighth biggest, not the seventh.
United States and Canada
[edit]- Link Rogue One.
- Since its been a while, also link The Force Awakens.
- A reference is needed for the film opening at "4,232 theaters".
- "a total of 67.5%" → "a total of 67%"
- "$71.6 million" → "$71.7 million"
- "$23.7 million" → "$23.6 million"
Other countries
[edit]- "set in France" → "set in various countries, including France"
- What does "compared the opening of The Force Awakens" even mean? Is the sentence finished?
- Done removed Chompy Ace 02:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- "which compared the opening" → "compared to the opening"
- Done removed Chompy Ace 02:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "92 percent" links to this more in-depth source, so cite that instead.
- According to Box Office Mojo, The Last Jedi actually grossed $42.5 million in China. If you don't want to cite that, here's an from The Hollywood Reporter.
- Fixed added pre-existing reference Chompy Ace 02:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The reference after "showtimes by 90%" has the wrong title.
Critical response
[edit]- Update Rotten Tomatoes.
- Try removing some quotes per WP:RECEPTION.
Audience reception
[edit]- "2.67 stars" → "2.6 stars"
- "4.3 out of 10" → "4.2 out of 10"
SomeMultiple claims in the last paragraph have THREE citations each. Try removing some per WP:OVERLINK.
- Done have reduced to one or two citations, and one from the first sentence in this section is converted into a bundle Chompy Ace 08:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- See here and here. I restored the refs, but I bundled them. See WP:CITEBUNDLE and WP:Citation overkill. I think the reviewer meant WP:Citation overkill, not WP:OVERLINK. WP:OVERLINK isn't about refs. The refs aren't redundant. They are there so that that the sentences are fully verified. If we say "several reviewers" and only have one reviewer supporting the sentence, that leaves the sentence somewhat unverified. There's also a WP:Hidden note in the section showing that the section was crafted after a lot of discussion. ReaperRoe (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- However, there are now duplicate citations to the same source. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 18:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- What duplicates? We're allowed to use the same ref more than once. That's what WP:REFNAME is for. And it's fine for us to use a ref both in a bundle and on its own. ReaperRoe (talk) 19:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- However, there are now duplicate citations to the same source. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 18:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- See here and here. I restored the refs, but I bundled them. See WP:CITEBUNDLE and WP:Citation overkill. I think the reviewer meant WP:Citation overkill, not WP:OVERLINK. WP:OVERLINK isn't about refs. The refs aren't redundant. They are there so that that the sentences are fully verified. If we say "several reviewers" and only have one reviewer supporting the sentence, that leaves the sentence somewhat unverified. There's also a WP:Hidden note in the section showing that the section was crafted after a lot of discussion. ReaperRoe (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Already done Chompy Ace 20:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm saying that the same reference is listed more than once (you can find the citation from Ian Youngs in #References five times). You can simply fix this with a better cite bundle using something like <ref name="Youngs"/> multiple times. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 20:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done have reduced to one or two citations, and one from the first sentence in this section is converted into a bundle Chompy Ace 08:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Accolades
[edit]- For the 2018 Teen Choice Awards, change "August 13, 2018" to "August 12, 2018"
- Link Ren Klyce, David Parker, Michael Semanick, Stuart Wilson, and Chris Corbould.
- Link each nominee every time they are listed per MOS:REPEATLINK.
- Fix the link to British Academy Film Awards by simply adding an "s".
- Can a secondary source for the Academy Awards be added, such as this?
- Replaced with Los Angeles Times Chompy Ace 01:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- This reference doesn't include the nominees for the BAFTA Award for Best Special Visual Effects.
- Replaced with Entertainment Weekly Chompy Ace 06:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For the MTV Award, can "Best Actor in a Movie" be changed to "Best Performance in a Movie" per the source used?
- Add rowspans to the various yet identical Teen Choice Awards.
- Link Rick Heinrichs.
Sequel
[edit]- This section looks good.
- Already done Chompy Ace 06:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Mark citations from Vanity Fair with "url-access=limited".
- Per consistency with the rest of the article, Yahoo! and Bleeding Cool should not be in italics.
- Mark citations from The Washington Post with "url-access=limited".
- Link Anthony Breznican
- Link Dave McNary
- Link Robbie Collin
- Link Todd McCarthy
- Not done reference had been removed (See #Critical response) Chompy Ace 10:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link Will Gompertz
- Link Mark Kermode
- Not done as The Observer was removed due to its tabloid format Chompy Ace 01:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Link Owen Gleiberman
- Link Michael Cavna
- The New Yorker should be marked as "url-access=limited", not "url-access=subscription".
- "Alirjaafar" → "Jaafar; Ali"
- Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 06:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The last reference, located after "with Chris Terrio" in #Sequel, is not working.
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