Talk:Stanstead, Quebec/Archive 1

Archive 1

"North of Derby Line"

Every place has the same problem. We need to be careful about siting any place giving undue value to some other place. Worse, the place is in a foreign country! How about on the Canadian-US border?Student7 00:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Curling and hockey

Nothing about curling or the hockey rink? This should be a "draw" I would think. Americans line up to use the hockey rink.Student7 (talk) 13:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

"Canusa Ave"

Why does this article say "Along portions of Canada's Rue Canusa, houses on the southern end of the street lay entirely within Vermont, while their driveways direct northward, and connect to the street in Quebec, as the northern portions of their properties are within Canada. These residents' backyard neighbours are American, while families living right across the street are Canadian, though no noticeable boundary exists between the two (the street itself is entirely within Canada)."

Maps show the street is almost entirely in the USA so is this article wrong???

Well, my mapquest shows Canusa as being entirely in Canada! I hope you can understand the problem. The roads were all constructed when the border was no really big deal as it is today. I cannot vouch for the statement specifically. Student7 (talk) 12:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

An article in the NY Times said exactly what the editor was quoting in the lead paragraph above, so I guess it is true.Student7 (talk) 00:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to Stanstead, Quebec, as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, thus requiring no disambiguating suffix. Other Stanstead articles should be added to Stanstead, Quebec (disambiguation). Aervanath (talk) 07:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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• The "new" Stanstead is also a town, not a city. So I propose we "move" it:

Stanstead, Quebec (city) → Stanstead, Quebec (town) — This article is about a town, not a city. Student7 (talk) 00:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

• Support as per Student7, Stanstead isn't a city. JdeJ (talk) 12:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
• But according to this edit, supported by a link to Stats Canada, it is classified as a "(V) ville", not as a "(TV) town/ville". I haven't investigated in any depth, though, how these classifications are determined. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
• The Stanstead government uses the word "town" in its English web site. [1] -- Gridlock Joe (talk) 01:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
• Comment: Why not Stanstead, Quebec? That redirects here. This page seems to be a far more popular search target than Stanstead, Quebec (township) anyway.[2][3] Jafeluv (talk) 22:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Sounds reasonable to me. -- Gridlock Joe (talk) 00:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
• Stanstead, Quebec seems best. Aubergine (talk) 03:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Seems fine to me too. We should add Stanstead (electoral district) to the hatnote, though. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 04:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• Comment. The problem is there is a Stanstead village with its own article within the (now) town of Stanstead. It is better to avoid ambiguity up front IMO. This one is the "town." The other, explicitly the village. This happens often in towns across the border in Vermont BTW, though the towns they are referring to are different of course. Student7 (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. According to Gridlock Joe, there are now four Stansteads: 1) the electoral district, 2) the town of Stanstead which Gridlock Joe claims does not include 3) Stanstead Village which is not good news. Where does Stanstead Village next to Rock Island and Derby Line fit in? and 4) Stanstead Plain which, according to Gridlock Joe, is in the town of Stanstead and excludes the village of Stanstead. I am really confused here. I thought I understood this, but if Gridlock Joe is correct, I don't and some of this is wrong or going to be wrong. Student7 (talk) 23:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • It can be confusing. Originally there were the township of (canton de) Stanstead and the town of Stanstead Plain. These were (and are) separated by Ogden (see the map on the township's article), and have no connection other than by name. Step forward to 1995, and Stanstead Plain ceased to exist as a separate town; it was made part of the new city of (ville de) Stanstead. The township had nothing to do with this, and is still a separate municipality. In my opinion, the city should have the base Stanstead, Quebec article and the township and electoral district should be cross-referenced in the hatnote. -- Gridlock Joe (talk) 00:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
• The fact that Stanstead, Quebec has been a redirect to the city/town article since at least 14 August 2008 indicates the city/town article is the primary topic and does not require any parenthetical disambiguating phrase. older ≠ wiser 13:54, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.