Talk:Stan McCabe

GA on hold

Not binding by any means, but in it's present state I'm not going to promote this to GA. Suggestions are as follows:-

Lead

• Where did he die? Please add it to the lead in the brackets
• "He was never dropped in his career" - dropped from what? The Test side? His local competition?
• Link "fast bowling" as appropriate
• Is there a list and description of cricket shots on Wikipedia? If so, "hook shot" needs a link
• "Medium pace" as two above

"Early years"

• Wikilink "barber" for context
• Is there an article on "all-rounder"s?
• "he was selected to represent New South Wales in his first-class debut against Queensland in the 1928-29 season" - one-dayers or Sheffield Shield? Specify and links needed

"International debut"

• See Tintin's note below.
• Second sentence is a little confusing - maybe use a ";" to break up the batting and bowling.
• Is it possible to add anything at all to the third sentence? It's very, very short...
• The fourth sentence could also be split up
• Wikilink not out (*) after 187
• "crushing" should be replaced and/or removed with a more neutral and less "flowery" term
• "he scored eight centuries on the tour, more than any of his team-mates - including 240" - specify that the 240 is an innings, as I had to reread it to understand (a quick transfer from number of centuries to an individual innings)

"McCabe made his breakthrough the following season in the Australian 1932-33, in the First Test in Sydney, the only Test which his parents witnessed in person, with England lead by Douglas Jardine employed the Bodyline bowling theory which involved constant intimidatory short-pitched leg-side bowling with a leg-cordon to catch balls fended off by the batsman, in an attempt to curtail Donald Bradman, universally regarded as the best batsman ever, from scoring. " should be split into three or four sentences. Tintin (talk) 08:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

"1935/36 South African tour"

• A direct reference after the "chewing gum" bit should be added (rather than at the end of the sentence) - it's extraordinary
• "At the following Test in Johannesburg, Australia were set a record 399 to achieve victory on a turning wicket" specify in the second innings, find a link for turning that's appropriate
• With the name of this, isn't the MOS "1935-36" (rather than a slash)? You use dashes for the rest...
• Remove "remarkable" from the last sentence, redundant overexaggeration

"International farewell"

• Is there a link for the '38 Ashes tour? Will there be one? if there is/will, link to where it is/will be.
• "McCabe's most highly-rated innings came in the First Test at Trent Bridge." reference(s)? [2] and [3] will do, given what's in the rest of the paragraph.
• He finished with 232 in 235 minutes with 34 boundaries and one six, an innings in which Bradman summoned his players not to miss a ball, as "they would never see anything like it again." definately needs a source.
• "at just 28" maybe add "years of age"?
• "Curiously, none of his three most celebrated innings resulted in an Australian victory." - I would make it "Curiously, none of his three most celebrated innings - (### in place X during), (### in place Y during ), and his 232 at TB during '38 - and resulted in an Australian victory."
• Source for the ADF/WWII sentence?

Images

Please use {{PD-Australia}} for Image:Don Bradman and Stan McCabe.jpg. The location of the graph is bizarre - it should be moved (either put it below the header, or well above it).

Checklist

As of 10:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC):

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

If you are concerned/opposed to one of my suggestions, respond underneath it using a double-bullet indent (**) and we'll discuss it :) Cheers, Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 08:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I think I've addressed them hopefully. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm happy enough. +GA :) Good work again Blnguyen. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 09:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Assessment completed for Stan McCabe

As per either a recent request at or because this article was listed as fully or partly unassessed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/Assessment I have just now completed a rating of the article and posted my results to this page. Those results are detailed above in the template box. Unfortunately, due to the volume of articles that need to be assessed, I am unable to leave detailed comments other than to make the following brief observation: Subject contributes a depth of knowledge.

However if you have specific questions, please write to me on my talk page and as time permits I will try to provide you with my reasoning. Please put my talk page on your watchlist if you do ask such a question because in the case of these responses I will only post my answer underneath your question.

ALSO if you do not agree with the rating you can list it in the "Requesting an assessment section", and someone will take a look at it.--VS ^talk 11:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Stan McCabe/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment. This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, --Jackyd101 (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

Prose is very good, probably an 8/10.--Jackyd101 (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

Although this qualifies, I'd prefer to see more information on his life after cricket, which is fairly skimpy.--Jackyd101 (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail:

Orphaned references in this article

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of this article's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "wisden":

• From Bill Brown (cricketer): "Wisden 1939 - Bill Brown". Wisden. 1939. Retrieved 2007-11-30.
• From Bill Woodfull: "Wisden 19279 - Bill Woodfull". Wisden. 1962. Retrieved 2007-05-24.
• From Jack Fingleton: "Wisden 1982 - Obituary - Jack Fingleton". Wisden. 1982. Retrieved 2007-05-21.
• From Wisden Cricketers of the Year: A. S. Dixon. "Cricketers of the Year". Cricinfo. Retrieved 2008-04-07. "Also I have left out of my reckoning John Wisden, founder of the Almanack, to whose memory the whole feature was devoted in the Jubilee issue of 1913--he died in 1884." As such, he is not a true Cricketer of the Year, but is included here for the sake of comprehensiveness.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)