Talk:St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl/GA1
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Reviewer: Eric Corbett (talk · contribs) 11:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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"The first church was said to have been erected in Llanynghenedl in 620".
Why "was said" rather than "is said"? Have opinions changed? "Was said to have been" always prompts the question "said by whom?"
"The first church was said to have been erected in Llanynghenedl in 620. A new church was erected in 1862".
There's a strong implication there that the 620 church survived until 1862, which I rather doubt. The first church on this site or the first in Llanynghenedl? In any event the word ordering implies that the 620 structure was the first church, rather than just the first church in Llanynghenedl.- Reworded. Unfortunately Angharad Llwyd doesn't say who says that the first church dates from 620. The same site would have been used each time, I'm sure, but the sources don't explicitly say that. BencherliteTalk 12:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- But the article says
"According to the 19th-century antiquarian Angharad Llwyd, it was said that the first church was built on this site in about 620."
Eric Corbett 12:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)- She says "The church, said to be built about 620, is dedicated to St E" (etc). I've reworded that bit of the article too - from her description of the location, she must be talking about the same site as the current ruins (and after all, the village is hardly large) but I'll avoid the temptation to read too much into her work. BencherliteTalk 12:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- But the article says
- Reworded. Unfortunately Angharad Llwyd doesn't say who says that the first church dates from 620. The same site would have been used each time, I'm sure, but the sources don't explicitly say that. BencherliteTalk 12:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Architecture and fittings
"It was inscribed with the name of the vicar (Thomas Vincent) and two churchwardens (Griffith Edward and Owen Hughes) for 1724".
I don't understand what "inscribed ... for 1724" means. It had an inscription dated 1724?- Reworded. BencherliteTalk 12:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
"The paten also had the mark of a leopard's head."
Do we have any idea what that mark might have meant?- Good question. A little Googling tells me it's the mark of the London assay office, so I've added that. BencherliteTalk 12:50, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I hope the changes are to your satisfaction. BencherliteTalk 12:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely. We can close this now. Eric Corbett 12:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.