Talk:St. Louis Jesuits

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Proposal to move some of this information to another page

I am proposing that the material on this page that regards the "music wars" in general be moved to a new page.

For details on this proposal, please see A Concrete Proposal at Talk:Contemporary Catholic hymnody. If you agree, disagree, or have comments, please comment on that page! - Lawrence King 02:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done!

I have moved all the controversy material to Contemporary Catholic liturgical music. Please don't add more to this page, unless it really is specific to Marty Haugen alone. - Lawrence King 06:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was Tim Manion a Jesuit?

That's the question! I wrote most of the "History" section of this page with information from this article [1] in America. But it doesn't say whether Tim Manion was ever a Jesuit, although it mentions "Tim Manion's wife" in 1980. - Lawrence King 22:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just read a new article on this: [2]. The author asserts that Manion was in the Jesuit seminary but never ordained. (Are Jesuit scholastics properly called "Jesuits"? Does it depend on whether they have taken solemn vows?) The article also states that Manion became a Buddhist in the 1980's.

I'm unsure whether to add this information to the article without another source. The article is a review of the new book about the St. Louis Jesuits. Can someone who has anyone read the book itself verify these claims? - Lawrence King 23:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition

In the name of fairness, should this article mention the strong opposition to this musical movement by many within the Catholic Church? JNF Tveit (talk) 02:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a section in the article Contemporary Catholic liturgical music that addresses the opposition that some have to modern liturgical music. At one time there was a section in this article (which was reproduced almost exactly in the articles about several other liturgical songwriters), but the consensus we seem to have reached was to remove it from those and keep it in Contemporary Catholic liturgical music. --Mwalimu59 (talk) 04:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]