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Requested move 8 February 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: To be moved. No opposition after a whole month of listing, and seems a valid move. Note: a hist merge is needed and for an admin to do the move. The nominator BrownHairedGirl has agreed to do this once I have closed this. Thanks. (non-admin closure)  — Amakuru (talk) 18:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]



St. Andrews United F.C.St Andrews United F.C. – per the MOS, per common usage, and per the club's own website. Extended rationale below. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Extended rationale:
  1. WP:Manual of Style#Full_stops_and_spaces: in standard British and Australian usage no stop is used if the abbreviation ends in the last letter of the unabbreviated form.
    In this case, the word "Saint" is abbreviated to its first and last letters: "St".
  2. Common usage: per WP:AT, When using Google, generally a search of Google Books and News Archive should be defaulted to before a web search, as they concentrate reliable sources. So I searched Google News, using the &pws=0 parameter to eliminate any personalised search bias: "St. Andrews United"
    That mostly produced churches, so I added the word football: "St. Andrews United" football. Still lots of churches, but the first 50 hits included 11 relating to this club. None of the 11 use a "dot" in "St.": [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11].
    I also searched on the websites of Scotland's 2 major broadcasters, BBC STV. No dots on the BBC, or on STV.tv
  3. The clubs's own website http://www.standrews-utd.co.uk/ does not use the dot in "St" in its logo or headers, nor (AFAICS) in text.
In January, I requested renaming for 3 similar articles: St Cuthbert, St Johnstone, and St Mirren. The first 2 have been closed as "move", but the St Mirren RM is still open. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.