Talk:Squeeze (band)

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Cited sources are not neutral, nor independent authorities. Squeeze are a commercial business, citing their fansite as source is little better than spam, or viral marketing. This is POV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.214.246 (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Er, actually, using their offical site and fan sites as a source for such factual information as dates of their album releases and detailed line-up switches is entirely appropriate.

Now, if these sites were being used to "source" statements such as "Squeeze was the coolest, most awesomest band ever", then yes, that would be inappropriate. But this entry is largely free of such hyperbole. While there are still a few isolated statements that could stand to be made more neutral, overall this is actually a pretty good article, especially for a rock band. It sticks almost completely to the verifiable facts -- album releases, chart positions, line-up chronology, etc. -- while offering some colour and anecdote along the way. There is, in fact, very little I can find that's strictly POV about this article.

That being said, additional sources would be more than welcome. 172.135.237.186 (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Singles

I've been taking on the project of doing articles for each of the band's singles for the last few months -- haven't done anything on Wikipedia prior to that, so if there's anything I can do to polish / improve my work here, feel free to let me know! Mrmctorso

Looking forward to it! _Pit^Shig | @ 22:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are known for their hit songs "Cool For Cats," "Up The Junction," "Tempted," and "Hourglass," among many others.

Black Coffee in Bed should be listed there. I watched MTV a lot back in the day and here in the US I saw it on MTV more than any other Squeeze song.

Also info should be added about the VH1 Bands Reunited thing.

WOW! i appreciate your work really much, cheers!:O —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.94.133.193 (talk) 09:58, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Wasn't "Cool For Cats" re-released in the 1990s? It doesn't appear in the list. I definitely bought it on CD single! Beantrees (talk) 17:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed ludicrous statement

"The two main writing partners in the band, Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook, are widely considered to be among the finest melodic pop songwriters of their generation and have often been compared with the legendary Lennon-McCartney partnership, although unlike The Beatles, Difford and Tilbrook's direct collaboration on songs continued through most of the group's career."

Do ya think perhaps a Squeeze fan wrote that? Damiancorrigan 11:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I've thought about cutting that one myself. There are plenty of citations you could make from the early 80's about critics and A&M pushing to get the band labeled as "the new Lennon & McCartney" (the label even put that on a sticker on the first pressing of Sweets from a Stranger). The band hated being labeled as such, though, and blame a lot of their mediocre mid-'80s material on that ridiculous amount of pressure. So, in context, we could keep some of that in the article, but as it was, it came across as pure fan gushing. Mrmctorso 21:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was of course Rolling Stone magazine that first coined the phrase (one to haunt them over the years). The US version of Sweets from a Stranger had a flap on the cover promoting this. Mr Telecaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.73.212 (talk) 13:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Although the songwriting methodology might be worthy of a mention, provided their songs are still collaborations and not just credited as such. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 06:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed dangling sentence re Kevin Wilkinson's suicide

Kevin Wilkinson did in fact hang himself at his home, but he was not a member of Squeeze at the time, and it's not really relevant to the band's history. Plus, the position of the sentence in the article was extremely awkward, and not realy connected to anything before it.

Of course, if you click on the Kevin Wilkinson link, details of his death are there, as they should be.

Date of birth is missing. It is written more like a fan story than factual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.232.132 (talk) 01:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beginners' Guide

I know that the question "who was the lead singer of Squeeze?" would be below the radar of those who know enough about the band to contribute to the article. However, a beginner who asked this question should be able to find the answer here. Glenn Tilbrook's page refers to him as lead singer but is there a reason not to call him lead-vocalist on this page? Labalius (talk) 21:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, and something that needs properly addressing. Joint or co-lead vocalist status, possibly?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glenn sings lead on many Squeeze songs, but Chris usually gets lead on one or two songs per album (and is the lead vocalist on the band's well-remembered UK hit "Cool For Cats"). Glenn and Chris sing together (more-or-less in harmony) on a number of songs, including Squeeze's first single "Take Me I'm Yours", as well as on many other tracks. Paul Carrack was the lead vocalist on their big hit "Tempted", and also sings lead on "Loving You Tonight". Jools Holland, when he was with the band, often got a lead vocal turn per album, as well as on a handful of B-sides. Keith Wilkinson sings lead on "True Colours (The Storm)". Guest vocalist Monique Dyan duets with Glenn on "Striking Matches", and guest vocalist Cathy Dennis duets with Glenn on "Temptation for Love". 192.30.202.20 (talk) 20:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great graphs

Just want to congratulate whoever did those fantastic band member graphs. This is the kind of thing that makes Wikipedia great!!!

Xzqx (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then I noticed that the yellow "additional keyboards" bit of the legend is cut off on the middle graph. I tried to fix it by increasing the width of the graph but that completely borked it. It's a shame -- would be nice if someone more familiar with wikipedia graphs could try and fix -- or is it a bug in the wiki software? Xzqx (talk) 15:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Kakoulli or John Bentley played bass on Cool for Cats album?

This seems to be causing some controversy. My vinyl copy has Bentley as the bassist on the album but the CD lists the bassist as Kakoulli as well as having what appears to be a photo of Kakoulli. Bearing in mind the CD has a year of 1991 I assume that the CD has it wrong and the vinyl is correct. It is also Bentley who appears in the videos for all the singles from the Cool for Cats album. Just to complicate matters further both the "Singles, 45s and Under" vinyl and CD list Kakoulli as the bassist and the book "Squeeze song by song" refers to the first recording made by the Bentley lineup as November 1979.

I think that A&M records made the original mistake and that everyone else has followed suit. I think Kakoulli was ousted after the FIRST album (Squeeze) NOT the second album (Cool for Cats). Anyone know for sure before I change it?89.241.47.244 (talk) 19:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)NH[reply]

Pretty sure Kakoulli did play bass on CfC for all the reasons you listed above, along with the fact that my vinyl copy does in fact name Kakoulli. I believe he was ousted after the album was recorded but prior to album promotion and touring, etc. Mrmctorso (talk) 22:56, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discography and live albums

The discography could also use a section on live albums, not just LPs and singles. __209.179.51.170 (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Should "Singles, 45s and Under" be mentioned in the discography? It has its own wiki page.

Are compilation albums generally included in discographies? It went platinum, I believe it's one of their best sellers.Magnabonzo (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:MUSIC says that musicians that have a separate discography article usually only have studio albums listed in the main article. It also says, significant non-studio albums can be included on the artist's main page with consensus from other editors.

As Singles – 45's and Under is their highest charting UK album, and went platinum in the UK and US, I support its inclusion in the main article discography, together with some content about its success. IndigoBeach (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If the band is disbanded...

The first sentence says that "Squeeze are a British band.." but the article later says Squeeze disbanded in 1999. Should this not say, therefore, that Squeeze were a British band? Vorbee (talk) 09:16, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No — they disbanded in 1999 but re-banded 2007 and released their latest album only a couple of months ago, as the next paragraph makes clear. Qwfp (talk) 09:21, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Harper

He gets a mention in the story but is not included in the Timeline. Nick's own page describes him as a past band member, coming here I found it all a bit ambiguous & hard to get at. Just saying...86.148.15.250 (talk) 18:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Harper may have felt as if he were a band member, but he explicitly appeared as a guest at shows (and on one track on Domino). He was never actually an official member of the group. His Wikipedia entry says he was a touring member of Squeeze, which seems accurate. 70.29.86.232 (talk) 23:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Known for

In the United States, Squeeze is known for Tempted and Pulling Mussels. These are the songs that receive radio play. I keep adding pulling mussels to the opening section of the article and it has been removed twice now by an editor Martinevans123. Pulling Mussels is their third most played song on spotify while neither "Hourglass" nor "853-5937" are in their top 10. Wikipedia is a living encyclopedia...hourglass and 853- may have been mtv-fueled hits but they are not what they are remembered for or known for. The very citation used to support the inclusion of hourglass and 853 mentions Pulling Mussels in its first paragraph as a notable song and doesn't mention either of these songs until its 6th paragraph, certainly giving the feeling that these are not their more popular songs.

Details, details, and more details

It's doubtful that even D&T's parents could have cared about the mountain of trivialities in this entry. Can someone pare this down about 70 percent so it is as long as it deserves to be? No offense to Squeeze, not Squeeze, sort of Squeeze, actually not really Squeeze, and Squeeze again. Nicmart (talk) 01:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]