Talk:Spit (album)

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"Spit"
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Date	Process	Result
September 9, 2017	Good article nominee	Listed
March 29, 2023	Good article reassessment	Kept
November 15, 2024	Peer review	Not reviewed

Current status: Good article

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Singles

The singles' pages are now redirects to the album. They contained the following information, in case someone wants to add it to the article:

Brackish

"Brackish" is a song by Kittie, released as the first single from their album Spit.

Track listing

"Brackish" (3:06)
"Da Shit Ya Can't Fuc Wit" (2:16)
"Charlotte" (Alternate Mellow Version) (3:53)

Video

Video: Brackish (3:02)

Video Directed By: Candave Corelli, Juli Berg
Video Producers: Laurel Harris, Michael Santorelli

Charlotte

"Charlotte" is a song by all-woman aggro metal band Kittie, released as their second single from their album Spit.

Tracklist

"Charlotte - Alternate Mellow Version"
"Suck - Live"
"Spit - Live"
"Charlotte - Alge Remix Radio Edit"

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Tanya Candler

Something in the article needs to talk about how she left the band after recording and how Talena Atfield joined afterward. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 16:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arrangement of info in WP:LEAD

I was going to start it myself, but I figured it might be better done by Statik N, the article's main writer.

Anyways, the lead/intro needs to be reorganized a bit. A lot of the information is good, it's just that the ideas aren't really grouped together very well. For example, looking at what it looks like at the time of writing this:

In this order, it mentions:

Album release date of Jan 2000.
Band forming in 1996.
Band signed to label in 1999.
Album recorded in 1999.
Album certified Gold in 2000.
Album finished in 1999.
Album delay lead to release 2000.
Tour was in 2001.

Conceptually and chronologically, it jumps all over the place. Similarly, the critical and commercial reception are mentioned in different paragraphs.

I'll leave it up to you on how you want to reorganize, but you probably want to rework it so things flow more in chronological order, similar ideas are mentioned together, and some of the sentences can probably be merged together or cut out. (ie it mentions being recorded in 1999 twice.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Improved the lead. What do you think of it? Statik N (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's...a step in the right direction...but I don't feel like its fully fixed... Sergecross73 msg me 14:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What else should I work on? Statik N (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Spit (album)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Seems perfectly fine to me. Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:21, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Although most of this article is good (i.e. the reception, composition, etc), I have several issues.

1. The page has suffered from an increasing amount of bloat since the original GA review in 2017; sometimes feels like sections have been copy and pasted around. And poor writing, no straight narrative (or chronology; you understand what I'm getting at); i.e.

"Kittie was formed in 1996 and got signed by NG Records after the band approached Jake Weiner, the record label's second-in-command. After seeing Kittie play live, Weiner signed the group to NG during the summer of 1999. NG was then acquired by Artemis Records toward the end of 1999 and Kittie recorded Spit at EMAC Studios in London, Ontario during the summer of 1999."

...among other really confusing repeats of stuff to do with NG's acquisition and whatnot, and influences. just hard to read

2. having done some extra research, page has several inaccuracies with dates or lack thereof (resolved those) which have created additional chronological difficulties. More sources are needed. Sources are still being found.

3. page lacks any details regarding things like "the legacy/reappraisal" of the album as one of the best of the nu metal genre; it, and some of its songs, have received accolades, with the most recent being a spot on Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Metal Songs of All Time list. (ask what citations, i'll give you them) The lack of acknowledgement makes the page feel unfinished to me (and yes, I will do something! I'm not asking for someone else to find them, so don't ask)

Notify: @Tbhotch:, 2017 GA Reviewer, @Statik N:, biggest contributor Chchcheckit (talk) 16:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If this doesn't get any traction, contact me as a last resort prior to closing and I will attempt to fix it. dannymusiceditor ^oops 17:18, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I want to close this now, since I've fixed everything I've said here. I mean, it could be reassessed to see if its still aight, but idk. I don't think this has traction Chchcheckit (talk) 11:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, i guess that's the new criteria; does this page with its new contents still stand as GA or are there things I need to fix Chchcheckit (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.