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Close relative to Roaches?

I am told that a spinny Lobster is like the cockroach of the sea? Why is this said, is it a species thing or is it only because they flee light and hind under rocks?

there are some species of cockroaches called lobster (cock)roaches (Nauphoeta cinerea, Henschoutedenia flexivitta), I don't know why but it seems it is the cockroach to be like a spiny lobster, perhaps because of the antenna ?Channer 19:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ecology

The article states that in Australasia that "Spiny Lobsters" are commonly referred to as crayfish. I have never heard Lobsters referred to as crayfish here i.e. Queensland, Australia. In fact we use crayfish to refer to fresh water varieties like scampi.... Jdcounselling (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In southern states of Australia (TAS,VIC,SA) the name "crayfish" or "crays" refers to saltwater spiny lobsters. Their freshwater cousins are called "yabbies" in some areas. This highlights confusion over naming and identification just here in Australia. So you can imagine the problems when communicating with people from across the world about defining what exactly is a: lobster, crayfish, scampi, red rock lobster, crawfish, spiny lobster, slipper lobster, langouste and so on!! Admella1859 (talk) 12:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really? I'm in NSW, and I've never heard of a lobster being called a cray. Are there references for this? It seems that the article is stating a fact, which isn't backed up by references. Can you find some references? --Belfry (talk) 04:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could find a dozen references. I've stuck in a couple of the better ones — one from an Australian governmental source, and the other from a carcinological work of global scope. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hear references in trop-rock music to people down in the Florida Keys calling them "bugs." --Shotguntony (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Alcoholic Drink

A rock lobster is the name of a shooter that can also be added to a sugar rimmed glass with coffee and whipped cream to make a rock lobster coffee. The shot is 1/2 oz ameretto, 1/2 oz white crème de cacao and 1/2 oz Baileys Irish Cream. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AdriaDracis (talk • contribs) 17:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Market

The spiny lobster article is incomplete without some discussion of the market dynamics and the scale of the spiny lobster fishery/market and related seafood economic impacts.

The discussion of colloquial names should also note that in the spiny lobster market place (the US market being the largest) that US buyers (i.e. Darden Restaurants, one the largest buyers of all lobster products) distinguish "spiny" lobster as being from tropical waters and "rock" lobster being from cooler temperate waters - although there are no good taxonomic reason for such a distinction. Because of the considerable dynamics and importance of the market place being the primary interface between the consumer and the lobster - this distinction should be noted.Duggerdm (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True. This article needs a lot of work, and specific notation of colloguial names to these non-clawed lobsters. I have often heard of them being called "Florida Lobsters" in the SE USA. Skiendog (talk) 21:26, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Spiny lobster culture in Vietnam into Spiny lobster

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge, given that culture in Vietnam is a relevant subtopic warranting separate discussion.Klbrain (talk) 13:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Covers nearly the exact same topics. AtlasDuane (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose, on the grounds that these are different topics, and there seems to be enough material to support both as medium-length articles. One is on the species, and one discusses the particular issues related to farming the species in Vietnam. By anaolgy, we have Salmon and Salmon farming, Fish farming distinct from fish etc. Klbrain (talk) 17:02, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose since the former is too long to fit in a section in the latter. It would also be an unnecessary compression of content. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 12:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support – Much of the content in Spiny lobster culture in Vietnam is just a retread of general information about spiny lobsters. I think preferably 'Spiny lobster culture in Vietnam' would be moved to 'Spiny lobster farming' and then be made less specific to Vietnam if possible. This article feels like it falls somewhere between WP:NOTTEXTBOOK(8)'s examples of 'Slate industry in Wales' and 'Oak trees in North Carolina'. At any rate, I think the current article feels almost essay-like and that a lot of its content (e.g. most of the subsection 'Wild seedstock (juvenile) lobster collection') should be transplanted into spiny lobster. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 16:31, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that production in Vietam is vastly larger than that in other countries, so it can be viewed as a special case. I've just added a reference mention of this at the end of the lede. Klbrain (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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