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Self published sources

The article has material that appears to originate from blogs. From WP:SPS

Self-published media, whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, Internet forum postings, tweets etc., are largely not acceptable... Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer.

Note that "Self-published ... may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves." That means for example that the AFA can be used as a source, since it is their program, but GLAAD cannot, since this is not the GLAAD article. Lionelt (talk) 02:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

After removing text from blogs, the article still is primarily about the protest to the 1 hour infomercial. In other words, it is a biased coatrack. There is 1 explanatory paragraph about the 13 episode series, and 1 paragraph about the infomercial. Both sources cite Wildmon's book, not the programs. Currently the only significant item in the article is the "almost 100" person protest. Is that WP:NOTABLE? It appears, and I could be mistaken, that an editor is including material about the protest ("updates") as they unfold, apparently on blogs. Please see WP:Wikipedia is not a newspaper.
I think the Controversy section could be improved by presenting a balanced, opposing point of view to the substance of the programs. That would, of course, require that someone actually write something about the programs, instead of the protest. See WP:CRITICISM Lionelt (talk) 03:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Homophobic propaganda?"

What is the rationale for the inclusion of that article's wikilink in this article? One person, who cannot in any way be called neutral, called the program "homophobic propaganda." Does that really justify adding a wikilink to the article of the same name? As a comparison, lots of people - many of them extremely well-known - called former President George W. Bush a Nazi, but that does not warrant a "See also" to articles about Nazism on the article about him. Seregain (talk) 03:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]