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Split Monroe Expressway article

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The result of this discussion was to not split the article. Will revisit the question if enough content merits it. WashuOtaku (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the US 74 Bypass/Monroe Expressway section should be split off onto its own article. Obviously more information would be needed, but it's certainly a major enough road that deserves more than a small section in a nationwide list. Roadsguy (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do not split — The only unique identifier between the Monroe Expressway and the other Special routes is the toll, and that is there. While it can be expanded more, creating a new article isn't necessary for that. Leave it with its siblings. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment—add the appropriate content that's missing. If at a later time there's enough, we'd discuss a split. Imzadi 1979 → 04:04, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - As of right now, there is not enough content to warrant a split. However, if the content for the Monroe Expressway is expanded enough to warrant an article, then it may be split out. Dough4872 04:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It's a no brainier, IMHO, that if there is enough content for a stand alone article, split it into its own article. However, in it's current state there is not enough content to merit a standalone article. It's not even the most prose for a highway on this list article, as the first entry is significantly longer. I think the examples at Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Roads/Notability#List_articles, namely Utah State Route 312 and Utah State Route 313 are similar example to what you propose, and are a good example of how to manage it when the content exists to support a separate article. Dave (talk) 04:45, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Splits occur because they have to, not because one person wants to. –Fredddie ™ 02:52, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal: Create a draft version of the article, and if it seems reasonably long and well referenced, we can move it to the main space. There's not enough content here to just split it out, however. But if the interested person creates a draft in a sandbox or something, and posts it, we can check it over and see if it is worth the trouble to create a stand-alone. --Jayron32 19:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm actually doing that already. I'll link it here when it's closer to completion. The next question would be whether to name the article "Monroe Expressway" or "U.S. Route 74 Bypass (Monroe, North Carolina)." Roadsguy (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - While I'm against this, I would name the article "Monroe Expressway" since that is the main focus; the later format works best in the article list. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:15, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft for Monroe Expressway article

It's been on the back burner for a while, but I finished my draft of a Monroe Expressway article. I'd love some others to take a look at it to see if it's good enough to be made into the real article. I was never suggesting that the small section in this article should just be copy/pasted onto a new article. Roadsguy (talk) 23:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More accurate shield for US 74-A

If you check the street view on Google Maps for US 74-A, you will see that the actual road is signed as "74-A," not "74A," throughout the entire routing. Shouldn't there be a US 74-A shield in Wikipedia that matches what's on the road? Greggens (talk) 02:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a streetview from Batcave. The fact is US 74A and US 74-A is exactly the same thing. For consistency sake, since there are many other examples across the state, we are sticking with the none hyphen version. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting page for the Monroe Expressway

Closing split proposal—Draft successfully published, thanks to all who contributed to the discussion. DiscoA340 (talk) 20:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I was wondering if there is merit in giving the Monroe Expressway a dedicated page. User:Roadsguy/Monroe Expressway has a draft that looks ready to be published but I was wondering what other opinions are about this? Thanks! DiscoA340 (talk) 09:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the content of the draft, I think a split can be done. However, the US 74 Bypass section should remain in this article with a hatnote to the Monroe Expressway article. Dough4872 12:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support I concur with User:Dough4872. I'd also like to add that I believe that the Monroe Expressway deserves a dedicated page since frankly, I believe it is quite notable due to its length, it being a controlled-access highway, and it being the second toll road in the state. OrdinaryJosh (talk) 01:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment While I do believe a split may be possible, I would like to also pose a potential opposing argument. Per the argument User:Washuotaku provided in the previous split proposal, I do believe that if we follow the logic behind this, I would also argue that U.S. Route 70 Bypass (Goldsboro, North Carolina) and North Carolina Highway 11 Bypass should both be merged back into their respective articles. Either outcome is fine by me. OrdinaryJosh (talk) 02:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are plans in motion to convert U.S. Route 70 Bypass (Goldsboro, North Carolina) to Interstate 42 when it officially establishes, so please do not do anything rash. My original concern at the time was the fact there was little information to be gain from a separate article for the Monroe Expressway; sometimes editors want to create new articles with very little information and I saw that as simply being redundant with low value added. If there is enough information now about the Monroe Expressway, providing a flushed-out history and so forth, then I am not opposed to it. The North Carolina Highway 11 Bypass is an example where there appears to be good amount of references, history of the road/route and whatnot. --WashuOtaku (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. Thank you for clarifying. --OrdinaryJosh (talk) 04:51, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am open with both splitting the article or not but I do believe there is use to having the toll fare rate in the ME Section like on the Triangle Expressway article. DiscoA340 (talk) 15:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If there aren't any objections, I can begin the moving process soon.

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