Talk:Speak Now/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be taking a look at this! — Ghost River 21:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

"starry-eyed romance of Fearless for" → "wistful romance of Fearless in favor of"
Link music critics to Music journalism

Background

"making Swift the youngest artist—20 years old at the time—to have" → "making Swift, who was 20 years old at the time, the youngest artist to have"
"tracked album sales" → "began tracking album sales"
Link the first instance of "singles" to Single (music)
Besides commercial and critical recognition, Swift's status as a mainstream pop crossover star cemented. Needs some kind of clause about how this was tied to Fearless; current syntax is awkward
"third studio album, which took place immediately"

Writing and lyrics

"conceived her third album" → "conceived the project"
"Swift chose not to write about themes trendy among sexualized teen idols because she wanted to stay true to her artistic vision." → "Swift chose not to follow the trend of increasingly-sexualized music by artists of her age, believing that such a path would be incongruent with her artistic vision."
"starry-eyed Fearless." → "youthful optimism of Fearless" (reduce repetition)
The Kanye West caption does not need a citation, as it is properly cited in the body already
Switch em dash for commas around "who had produced for Swift since her self-titled debut album"
"recommended Swift to choose a different title" → "recommended that Swift choose a different title"
"She settled with the title" → "She settled on the title"

Production and composition

Comma after "to tweak some elements"
"he had mixed some tracks on Fearless." → "he had previously collaborated with Swift for some tracks on Fearless."

Isn't this more wordy? Ippantekina (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"album's genre ~~category~~."
The Paste review also mentions some country elements
"The remaining tracks on Speak Now"
""Dear John"—at six minutes and 43 seconds, the longest track on Speak Now—is a" → ""Dear John", the longest track at six minutes and 43 seconds, is a"

Release and promotion

Marketing

"Swift announced the titles of the album Speak Now and the lead single "Mine"." → "Swift announced that a 14-track album titled Speak Now was due for release on October 25, and that the lead single, titled "Mine", would drop in mid-August." (all congruent with source)
"The tracks released were "Speak Now" (October 5)" → "This promotion began with the title track on October 5, followed by"
Link Elizabeth Arden to Elizabeth Arden, Inc. – the current target links to the person, not the company

Singles

Comma after "November 15, 2010" per MOS:DATECOMMA

Touring

Comma after "Omaha, Nebraska" per MOS:GEOCOMMA
The "in total" feels disingenuous when only talking about the North American dates
"announced extending" → "announced an extension"
"When it completed" → "Upon its completion"

Commercial performance

"The Carter III" → "Tha Carter III"
""Fastest-selling"" → ""[f]astest-selling""

Critical reception

Link "critics" to Music journalism
Mention the AnyDecentMusic? rating in the body as well

Accolades and reappraisal

Who was Speak Now behind in the NYT rankings?
"In retrospect" → "In a 2019 retrospective"

Track listing

Should use the track listing template
- Because the album has one writer and two producers, I followed WP:TRACKLIST (which says that the template is not always the best option) and an example at Cut the Crap, which is less bulky than the template. Ippantekina (talk) 03:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel

What does "national" mean in terms of musicianship?
- Whoops, a glitch. Removed. Ippantekina (talk) 03:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

Purely for aesthetic reasons, I would move the year-end charts to be side-by-side with the weeklies, and then have decade and all-time below

Certifications and sales

Good

References

Great!

General comments

Images are either Creative Commons or are fair use, and all are relevant
Audio clips run within 30 seconds and is appropriately used to demonstrate a point
No stability concerns in the revision history
Earwig is breaking, so I am assuming good faith on the copyvios, and the spot checks I did turned up OK

Finally got through this – thank you for bearing with me, it was something of a long article. Putting on hold for now; feel free to ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished. — Ghost River 19:41, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All done. I was worried this GAN would take a long time to finalize because reviewers are usually reluctant to review such a long article. Thank you very much for reviewing the article :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making those changes, and apologies for the delay – currently fighting off a depressive phase. This looks good to go! — Ghost River 01:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]