Talk:Spaceship Earth

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David Deutsch

Does his criticism even come close to seeming like he understands what the idea behind space ship earth is? I mean, whoever held that it was quote - "friendly". I read that chapter and almost just skipped it, because of its really ignorant view, a disappointment seen as the rest of the book seems to be thoughtful and very well argued.

The idea of the spaceship earth is that we have to use the resources better to keep us alive, not that the earth will do it by default because of the enviroment being friendly. moreover that humans have the potential to put its resources to good use, if they use their brains . and in fact this is the same conclusion that deutsch comes to in critizing his misconception of it, and in the processes dispensing of a pretty decent metaphor (that never implied friendliness). I think that deutsch could have put it to good use, but instead seems to burn a straw man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.25.118.72 (talk) 09:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I came here to voice a similar concern with its inclusion. Yes, it's sourced and it's not written in Wikipedia's voice, but it comes out of absolutely nowhere, as Deutsch's criticism is of a notion (a "friendly spaceship") that the article at no point mentions. It's an obvious strawman, or else based on a colossal misconception, and I think it's being given undue weight. It really adds absolutely nothing to the article. WP Ludicer (talk) 00:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On U Thant

anybody else think that that U Thant quote should move to somewhere on Wikiquote? — boredzo (talk) 09:32, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)

I've tried to put the quote more into context. I think it's valuable here as an important example of use of the Spaceship Earth phrase. — JimR 07:27, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

planet earth using magnets heat we can recreate it and even the impulse elctrics that we create we can make a small version and wilol proboly be the fastest known ship in the galxi . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.112.164 (talk) 23:53, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Buckminster Fuller's Operating Manual publication date

Can anyone determine the first date of publication of Buckminster Fuller's Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth? It would be interesting to know whether it preceded or followed Kenneth E. Boulding's essay. — JimR 07:30, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OPERATING MANUAL FOR SPACESHIP EARTH: E.P. Dutton & Co., New York. c1963, 1971, paperback. Alf 07:41, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

using certain funding i belive i can acomplish this my email is gstardb9@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.112.164 (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry George

Although all other searches verify the lines as quoted here, the wikisource book is quite different, even down to counting 'chapters' instead of 'books'. Irritating. para 21 on this page, IV.II.21 on this page. Alf 20:53, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Opening line

I've been bold and gone for a clear opening statement, if you feel it is, in fact, rubbish, please revert to previous. Alf 21:36, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with keeping it, though labelling it a "complex" world view is perhaps a bit over-the-top. It strikes me as a rather simple and clear theory, but then, I've never studied it. --Habap 13:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy for anyone to change it, I was trying to find a way to give it a clear introduction, I wracked (wrecked?) my brain trying to find the right words, please change it to something more appropriate as you see fit. Alf 14:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Spaceship Earth is a world view term usually used to express concern over the use of limited resources available on Earth. Does that seem workable to you? --Habap 15:11, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I like the 'usually' as this would include the third reference, which was different in tone to the rest. Please go with it. Alf 16:30, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good phrase! I've amended it slightly to avoid two "use[d]"s. JimR 03:17, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

VfD

The article survived a Vote for Deletion in August 2005: see the archived VfD page. -- JimR 05:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Great save, boys and girls. Alf 06:36, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with "Generation ship"

I suggest that this article be merged with the Generation ship article. Leahzero (talk) 01:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The two are unrelated concepts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.25.118.72 (talk) 09:06, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

EPCOT

Must add EPCOT at Disney World, Florida, USA--71.111.229.19 (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Asimov

Asimov published a book titled "Earth: Our Crowded Spaceship" in 1974. It treats the idea of earth as a ship of limited resources in a very "childrens textbook" manner, in that it's easily understood and covers a large, general, time line instead of getting too specific.

Some mention of this book should be here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.53.242 (talk) 20:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First use of the term - edit conflict

@Bstrack171477, 67.175.161.42, and DemocraticLuntz:

Recents edit have put either Robert Wardinski or Henry George as the first user of the term.

See this edit diff.

It may be worth discussing the issue here and trying to reach consensus.Jonpatterns (talk) 10:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Several movies

There are several movies too http://www.imdb.com/find?q=spaceship+earth&s=all --prokaryotes (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Epcot

What on Earth is going on with this sentence?

Spaceship Earth is the name given to the 54,864 m geodesic sphere that greets visitors at the entrance of Walt Disney World's Epcot theme park.

The Epcot Sphere is clearly not 54 864m in any dimension Louisfuture (talk) 08:35, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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