Talk:Southern Paiute people

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 September 2018 and 18 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Estevens1, Morganclark122. Peer reviewers: Talexander7.

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Incomplete SMERGE in March

@TaivoLinguist: This article appeared in WP:NOREFLIST, but upon a closer look at Special:PermaLink/846405513 revealed a total lack of sources despite the inline references. The problem arises with the March 2018 splits of Paiute, where text is copy-pasted in Special:Diff/784880911/833270034 without the appendixes. I have copy-pasted them now, but they obviously need pruning, and I'm leaving that up to you. If you find another approach to solving the problem is easier, feel free to undo my edit. There is a discrepancy between the 1978 date in the Kelly & Fowler citation and the source that is dated 1986.
In re Northern Paiute: a similar approach with copy-pasting appendixes from this old revision of Paiute may be the way forward.
The third article, Mono people, is not so straightforward to fix: it was not just a redirect back in March, it was an article, and it used full citations, so a choice has to be made, cf. WP:CITEVAR.
Let me know if I can be of any further help. You mentioned at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paiute that you probably should have transferred the content to Northern Paiute people and Southern Paiute people. If you think this is an uncontroversial matter, I can WP:SWAP Northern Paiute with Northern Paiute people and Southern Paiute with Southern Paiute people. Sam Sailor 16:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sam Sailor:. Yes, this is uncontroversial and you can do a WP:SWAP. Thank you. I'll continue to look into the fixes that need to be done to clean up the remaining issues following the split of the article. --Taivo (talk) 17:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sam Sailor 18:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review (Taryn)

The information provided is great, and you did a good job explaining it. I would like to see a little more information though. It would be great to include more about their history, culture, and traditions. You could even structure your article into categories such as the ones aforementioned. That would help the reader find information quickly if need be. You did a great job at keeping the content neutral, especially when writing about a topic that is sure to be surrounded by great controversy. The sources look great, and as such, your page is easy to navigate. I really enjoy that you included a picture as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talexander7 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

==Wiki Education assignment: ENVS 135== This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 January 2022 and 12 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mnoble13 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Salt.daisy.

Southern Paiute does NOT mean "Paiute" or "Northern Paiute"

The name "Paiute" is a misnomer in terms of establishing any link between the Southern Paiute and the Northern Paiute. They are no more closely related, either linguistically, culturally, or historically, to each other than they are to the Shoshoni (who separate the two "Paiutes") and Comanche. Please cease to insert information that tries to claim that there is any kind of special link between Northern Paiute and Southern Paiute. There isn't one. The name "Paiute" was applied to each of the two groups independently of one another in the 19th century and by the time that anthropologists had noted the error, it was too late to correct it. When adding photos to this article it is also important to carefully note WHERE the photo was taken when it is simply labelled "Paiute". I have removed one photo that was taken in Kings County, California. That means that the person in the photo was either Northern Paiute or Eastern Mono ("Owens Valley Paiute"). TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 05:23, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Compare the information at Northern Paiute people. The map there just shows Northern Paiute lands. Do that here. That "Paiute" map is misleading. It's appropriate at the Paiute disambiguation page, but nowhere else. --TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 10:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]