Talk:South Tyrol (disambiguation)

merge

Everything in this so-called "disambiguation" is already described in South Tyrol, it describes the same thing. Gryffindor (talk) 13:57, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that's entirely true (there's far more on the Talk page about the various names than there is on the article itself) but even assuming that it is completely true, what do you expect to change by a merger nomination? A successful merger would end in a redirection of this page to South Tyrol. The disambiguation page is already a slightly-glorified soft-redirect that includes the primary target and a secondary target which is mentioned in passing (and buried in the fourth paragraph) of that primary target. If you think that a redirect would server our readers better, make your case. Or be bold and see if the change sticks.
The one result of a merger that would not happen is the deletion of this page. (I mention this only because your speedy-deletion nominations have been declined twice already, leading me to believe that there is a misunderstanding about the process.) Redirects - and disambiguation pages like this are equivalent - are cheap. Unless there is active potential for harm or confusion, there is too much likelihood of breaking an inbound link (whether internal or external) on a title this old. We routinely keep such pages for their value to the project history. Rossami (talk) 14:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this disambiguation is not needed anymore. South Tyrol is the main article and actually the part south of the Alpine divide was known as Südliches Tirol = Southern Tirol; imo - since a redirect wouldn't make much sense and actually there is only one place really named South Tyrol this disambiguation page can be deleted, archived, removed - whatever is appropriate in such a case. noclador (talk) 21:58, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's really no need for a disambiguation. There's only one South Tyrol. Prior to 1918 the whole area from Ala (in the south of Trentino) to Kufstein (in Austria near the border to Germany) was known as Tyrol. The Brennerpass signed the divide between the northern and southern part of Tyrol, and the southernmost part (south of Salurn) was known as Welschtirol (welsch means italian - today this area is called Trentino). The terms Südtirol, South Tyrol and Alto Adige were coined only after 1918 to denote the newly formed province of of Bozen.--Sajoch (talk) 07:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]