Talk:South Tyneside

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Arabs?

The local identification of South Shields people with Arabs, which is widespread in the region, may have originated from the placename Arbeia (which is apparently a Latinized version of an Aramaic term meaning "place of the Arabs"), but there has also been a fairly sizeable Arab community in South Shields since the 1890s. This is also one hypothesised explanation of the term "Sandancer" (derived from "sand dancer") for people born and brought up in South Shields.

The explanation of Sandancer sounds a bit contrived; nothing to do with the town's renowned sandy beaches, then? I'm not saying it's definitely incorrect, but this apparent identification with Arabs is something I was never previously aware of in all my years living there, and the Sandancer explanation sounds as if it was written by someone with no local knowledge of the area. —Vom ^(talk) 23:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I concur - I lived in South Shields for twenty years and the 'identification of South Shields people with Arabs' is news to me. The assertion that this is 'widespread in the area' is utterly subjective. There is also precious little (i.e. none) evidence for Arbeia being a Latinized version of an Aramaic term meaning place of the Arabs. I would like to see links provided to authoritative, academic sources for these baseless assertions. Otherwise I advise removal or rewording of this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemugman (talk • contribs) 15:00, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

South Tyneside Borders

It is bordered by three other boroughs – Gateshead to the west, Sunderland in the south and North Tyneside to the north.

Does it not border Newcastle too? There is a river separating the Borough yes, but that is still a border. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 18:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talk • contribs) [reply]

You are correct. There is about a 1 mile south to north flowing section of the Tyne between Walker and Wallsend where Newcastle-upon-Tyne district directly faces South Tyneside district. It's easy to see on a map, e.g. google maps, by searching for north tyneside and then for south tyneside - noting where the red line signifying the border is located. 10mmsocket (talk) 19:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not following the objective writing style of Wikipedia articles

I'm not an editor, so I leave the following to others to correct. Several of the sentences in the article read as if written by the council's PR team and are far from objective.

- First line under the 'History' heading: "Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, the early 20th century arrival of the Arabs and more recently the settling of people from the Commonwealth, notably the Indian sub-continent, and the European Union reflect the present-day culture of South Tyneside." How can the first line that should reflect history already move towards an unsubstantiated claim about the present day culture.

- The following line: "The hospitality strip at Ocean Road is famed throughout the region for its Indian, Italian, Middle Eastern and Chinese cuisine." Again, why is this placed underneath the heading of history? Second, is there any reference to it being famed throughout the region for its cuisine? Nearly every larger town in the North East has restaurants of that nature.

- "Mill Dam, with former Customs House (now a theatre, cinema and arts complex), cobbled lanes and Mission to Seafarers centre, stands tribute to the long and proud history of shipping in the town and the River Tyne." Granted, there is a long history of shipping in this town, but where are the sources? And what does the first part of the sentence have to do with the second half?

- "Bede's World in Jarrow" Shouldn't there be an indication that Bede's World is a little museum? That whole sentence is a bit of a mess.

- The whole Economic section should be reviewed. There is no citation throughout, and several points are subjective and hearsay. The last sentence in particular. Is anyone actually going to South Tyneside for tourism? If yes, then the government will have statistics relating to this. 90.252.68.111 (talk) 10:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]