Talk:Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer

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Membership

As far as I can account, the membership of the congregation, from 1988 until today knew 33 different members at different times.

Rev. Fr. Augustine Stylites OSB Cist. (+)
Br. Hohepa Mark C.s.s.R.
Br. Rafael Martin C.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Alphonsus Maria O.Carm
Br. Columba (Padraig O'Connor) Maria C.s.s.R.
Br. Cyril Mariaodius F.s.s.R.
Br. Gerardus Marianus N.s.s.R.
Br. Ivan Maria F.s.s.R.
Fr. Magdala Maria F.s.s.R.
Br. Roman Greek Maria of the Child Jesus and the Holy Face C.S.Sp
Br. Wolf (Edward Morris) Maria F.s.s.R.
Br. Brother Bro B.r.o
Br. Gabriel Marie C.s.s.R.
Br. Jean Levi F.s.s.R.
Br. Louis (Romanos Latinos) Marie F.s.s.R.
Br. Marcel Marie C.s.s.R.
Br. Yousef Marie F.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Anthony Mary F.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Clement (Marshall Amps) Mary F.s.s.R.
Br. Dominic Mary F.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Nicholas Mary PasseratC.s.s.R.
Br. Joseph Mary C.s.s.R. (+)
Br. Kentigern / Mundo (Andrew Williams) Mary C.s.s.R.
Br. Marc Mary C.s.s.R.
Br. Maron (Simon Garfunkel) Mary C.s.s.R.
Br. Martin (Benedict Cumberbatch) Mary F.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Michael (Sim Shuglu) Mary F.s.s.R.
Br. Niko Mary F.s.s.R.
Br. Matthew Mary of the Incarnation F.s.s.R.
Br. Xavier Mary of the Incarnation F.s.s.R.
Br. Paul Mary F.s.s.R.
Rev. Fr. Richard Leon Heart S.s.s.S.
Br. Francisco (Stephen Mary) C.SS.R

Coat of arms and motto

The page currently displays the general coat of arms and motto of the Redemptorist order rather than the specific arms and motto of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer (formerly called the Transalpine Redemptorists). These can be found here: [1]. I intend on replacing these, but will begin by removing the incorrect insignia. 50.248.91.50 (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the user who made the above IP-only comment and edits. I just added the coat of arms. — AJDS ^talk 21:06, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"branch of the Redemporists"

If they were formed in 1988 as part of the SPX, then they were not a branch of the Redemptorists. Were they formed as a branch of the Redemptorists who then left the Redemptorists? The confusion is continued when the article says "canonically erected as a separate religious institute in 2012." from what? not from the Redemptorists, because they were never part of them.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 14:30, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

According to the sources, it was formed by a member of the Redemptorist congregation, adopting Redemptorist spirituality, with a Redemptorist identity, calling themselves (a type of) Redemptorist, and described in at least one source as an "offshoot of Redemptorists"[2] so it's appropriate to lightly paraphrase that and call them a branch of the Redemptorists. I think whether or not the SSPX was part of the equation or when it was later given a formal status is unlikely to be relevant - a community still exists as a community regardless of whether it was given official status as an institute in canon law. Nonetheless I think I see your point regarding the ambiguity, so I've added a bit more to the article to give some context behind the description. Epistulae ad Familiares (talk) 15:42, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. I was going to say "it's like an Anglican Franciscan group - are they a branch of the Franciscans?" thinking "no" but then I thought "there is a sense in which they are." Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Redemptorist priest Fr Michael Mary Sim C.SS.R."

If Fr Michael Mary was a Redemptorist when he founded the Sons, would his initials have been CSsR? That's what the Wiki article says, and their own home page.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 21:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]