Talk:Sonic Riders/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tails Wx (talk · contribs) 03:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this'll be a fun one! Guess I'll have to review a video game article involving me. ;) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 03:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accidentally commented in the wrong area; I will attempt to do everything the best I can, although I'll likely be unavailable for several hours starting 3:30 PM (AEDT). Added alt text to the cover art and image. Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 04:10, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I'll have to go now; will try to respond to any changes needed soon. Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 04:30, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've returned and should be able to work on any changes now. Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 22:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Noting that the review process may take up to 7 days; you've got plenty of time. :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 02:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All my concerns are addressed below - I am happy to pass this review! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 15:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
~~I definitely think that a couple spots may need grammar fixing. I'll note this in my comments!~~

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
No concerns; lead section looks great!
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Overall looks great; but shouldn't the characters need a source for their presence in the video game?

C. It contains no original research:
Several references didn't verify content provided. Noted below!

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
No copyright violations; nothing according to Earwig's Copyvio Detector!
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
No concerns!
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
Both images are non-free, but qualify as fair use!

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
No concerns about captions; though why not add alt text?
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments

Sources cited inline

"Players can also collect rings scattered across the track; collecting a certain number of rings will cause their character to level up for the remainder of the race, increasing the strength of their abilities and extending their maximum air capacity." – I don't see a provided source for this.
"the remainder are unlocked through progression in the game's story mode and by winning Gold in both the World Grand Prix tournaments, in which players race through five consecutive tracks and attempt to get the highest overall score." – no source here, either!
Shouldn't the characters that appear in the video game need a source?

Prose

"intersect with one another: The "Heroes" story, focusing on Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles" – shouldn't "the" be not capitalized following the colon? Additionally, why not change "focusing" to "focused"?
"and the "Babylon" story, focusing on the Babylon Rogues, consisting of new characters" – try "and the "Babylon" story, focused on the Babylon Rogues and includes new characters".
"received many requests from fans for another Sonic racer" – how about "many" to "numerous"?
"never officially greenlit" – I'd use another word to better describe "greenlit".

That's all I have for now; I'll resume spotchecks soon, and possibly more prose fixes if I missed any. Thanks! (Courtesy ping Shadowboxer2005!) :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 03:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I couldn't find anything relating to upgrades in-race from collecting rings, but I did find them referencing purchasing equipment with them, so I changed it to reference that.
Couldn't find references for the winning Gold part, removed.
While I could potentially find all the characters through enough reference digging, it'll probably be very annoying to do so, so I've expunged the section.

Prose

1/2/3 all requests done
4 changed to "picked up?.

Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 03:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I rephrased #2 since it sounded a little clunky, and tracked down sources for ring upgrades and World GP. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 04:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 17:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After doing some digging, I managed to find references from reliable sites for every character, and have re-added the section accordingly. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 23:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, Shadowboxer2005, I think you've addressed most of my prose concerns! My remaining concern is that the re-wording to "picked up" – I think there still could be a better phrase/term to describe it, and to clarify how he never "picked up" on it. Otherwise, I'm still working on the source review and spotchecks; this'll be complete in the next several hours or so (I'm slightly busy at the moment). :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 17:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changed it to "Sega never responded and cut-off all communications with the studio after Heroes' release." Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 20:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds better, thanks! ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks

Some commentary below:

Gameplay:

"consisting of hover boards, hover skates, and hover bikes" – the Kidzworld reference doesn't verify the skates and bikes that appear in the game, though it does state that there are skateboards in the game.
"which will give them a sudden burst of speed at the cost of a significant amount of air" – the 1UP reference doesn't verify the significant air loss, though it does verify the speed boost!
"If a player boosts into an opponent, their character will attack and stun the opponent for a brief period" – reference 9 does verify the character attacking, though it doesn't mention how it stuns the opponent for a brief period.
"Only five tracks are accessible from the start" – reference 8 doesn't mention this.

Otherwise, I have no other concerns! Placing this on hold for now. (Courtesy ping Shadowboxer2005!) :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removed references to skates and bikes (and removed the space between "hover" and "boards") as well as added IGN's reference
Nintendo World Report's review mentions using up air, so I moved 1UP's reference towards the end as per standard
Couldn't find any review mentioning stunning the player, so I just removed it altogether since otherwise it wouldn't explain what attacking does.
Replaced "five" with "a few" as IGN's review mentions unlocking stages

Shadowboxer2005 (talk) 02:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Almost good to go! I do, however, believe there is a possibility that there is a source for the character attacking and stunning an opponent for a brief period, and even the skates and bikes being used in the game. Pinging Cyberlink420 for this since they did track down references to use for unsourced statements above! ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 03:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Found an IGN hands-on that verifies the skates and bikes, as well as using attacks to "cast aside the other racer" ~~(which I phrased as "slow them down", though I do wonder if that's the best word; "overtake them" might be closer to IGN's intended meaning and more accurate to what actually happens).~~ EDIT: Switching it to overtake; it's more accurate and fits with IGN's description. --Cyberlink420 (talk) 03:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input, Cyberlink420! I feel comfortable to pass this review now. Good work, Cyberlink420 and Shadowboxer2005! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 15:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]