Talk:Song of Myself
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The poem is also included in Simon's eulogy in the book One of us is Lying. I'm not sure if it is included in the TV series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.229.18 (talk) 17:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Walt Whitman
- What about him? 71.31.147.247 23:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Summaries
- Are blatant copies from CliffsNotes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.103.225 (talk) 21:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Revisions
- Don't have time to add this at the moment.. but there are significant differences in meaning from edition to edition in this poem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.219.102.208 (talk) 15:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Summaries
[edit]I've removed the summaries because they were far too detailed. I see 71.29.103.225's comment about Cliff's Notes, and if that's true it's another reason to remove them. --Tony Sidaway 21:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Good catch. I noticed that myself about a month ago. This article should focus on something a bit more important than summary anyway. --Midnightdreary (talk) 02:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Bad Link
[edit]Currently the fifth link, American Transcendentalism Web Study Text of "Song of Myself", when I click on it I get a 403 forbidden. Does anyone else get this problem. If you do, I suggest that link be removed. 96.237.203.138 (talk) 17:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Fixed. Rivertorch (talk) 17:08, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Poem Text Formatting
[edit]the formatting of the poem is way off, at least compared to print editions, and other editions online. most of the stanzas have been collapsed into single lines.
- For example:
- From the article page (as of 12/8/2014), a line from section 51:
- Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
- From the article page (as of 12/8/2014), a line from section 51:
- Same passage, as it's found in Norton Anthology of American Literature & on UI Urbana-Champaign's English Dept. website
- Do I contradict myself?
- Very well then I contradict myself,
- (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
- Same passage, as it's found in Norton Anthology of American Literature & on UI Urbana-Champaign's English Dept. website
perhaps just copy the one on the UI site? it's been split up in the HTML by pretty much every stanza (with <a> tag markers on each one). I'd replace the one on the page myself, but I feel like someone who knows the wiki code better would do a better job of formatting it for the article. --Mrdeadhead (talk) 04:40, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- The poem really shouldn't be on this page at all. The article is supposed to be about the poem; the poem itself should be housed at Wikisource. --Midnightdreary (talk) 01:30, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- so... how does that get done? i'm honestly not sure. I like the idea of articles about poems or literature at least being able to source out to the text of it, if just in the case of public domain works. it's a good added resource the article can make available. though this one in particular was a little long, so maybe only short poems should be made available directly on the article page? but yea, their inclusion in some manner would seem beneficial to anyone looking it up. at the very least I hope that when someone makes an infobox they'll include a link to the poem. Having it available to readers in some manner would just be good, just like articles about visual artworks try to include an image of the piece... also, deleting that ref from my first post here on the talk page... realized i didn't know what i was doing. --Mrdeadhead (talk) 05:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- Wikisource is the repository for this kind of stuff, sort of the online library of original texts as a sister to Wikipedia itself. If you scroll all the way to the bottom, there's a box linking to the Wikisource version of "Song of Myself" already, along with a couple other external links. In other words, the poem text is readily available through this article. As far as when to include a poem text in the article about the poem, consider what would a printed encyclopedia do (few would include a full poem). The Wikiproject Poetry page (linked in the box at the top of this discussion page) offers some guidelines too, I believe. Ultimately, articles like this should be about the poem, like publication date, composition background, analysis, etc. I hope that helps! --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
- yes, very helpful, thank you! i do hope it gets a link higher up someday, but i'm glad to hear it's already a part of wikisource, thanks again. --Mrdeadhead (talk) 22:23, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Wikisource is the repository for this kind of stuff, sort of the online library of original texts as a sister to Wikipedia itself. If you scroll all the way to the bottom, there's a box linking to the Wikisource version of "Song of Myself" already, along with a couple other external links. In other words, the poem text is readily available through this article. As far as when to include a poem text in the article about the poem, consider what would a printed encyclopedia do (few would include a full poem). The Wikiproject Poetry page (linked in the box at the top of this discussion page) offers some guidelines too, I believe. Ultimately, articles like this should be about the poem, like publication date, composition background, analysis, etc. I hope that helps! --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
- so... how does that get done? i'm honestly not sure. I like the idea of articles about poems or literature at least being able to source out to the text of it, if just in the case of public domain works. it's a good added resource the article can make available. though this one in particular was a little long, so maybe only short poems should be made available directly on the article page? but yea, their inclusion in some manner would seem beneficial to anyone looking it up. at the very least I hope that when someone makes an infobox they'll include a link to the poem. Having it available to readers in some manner would just be good, just like articles about visual artworks try to include an image of the piece... also, deleting that ref from my first post here on the talk page... realized i didn't know what i was doing. --Mrdeadhead (talk) 05:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)