Talk:Sonata rondo form

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While more discursive than the best sonata forms (in the hands of composers who understood what they were for- sonata forms of course are discursive enough when employed by composers who haven't a clue what they are doing)

and while it's true that while in the sonata form the focus is conflict, often between key centers, in the sonata-rondo the focus is generally melodic invention...
Mozart (one of the innovators of this combination of the danse-en-rondeau favored by the late French baroque and the emerging sonata, as argued by Girdlestone in his book on Mozart's piano concertos)
- tinkered with the sonata-rondo form over a period of years (and of pieces over one year... 1784 eg)
- wrote some works using this form that were only (I think it safe to say) relatively discursive- consider those that conclude the piano concertos 14 in E-flat, 16 in D and 19 in F. Schissel | Sound the Note! 12:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]