Talk:Sombrero

Fire

Not relevant in the actual article, but once in Mexico City I saw a dude wearing a huge straw sombrero that was on fire. It might be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Maw 16:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Influence

"Cowboys of the American southwest later adopted the sombrero and modified it into the cowboy hat."

The "Cowboy hat" page never mentions this, and to the contrary suggests that the cowboy hat was invented in England and developed in the US without regard for the Mexican hat. Amulekii 14:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

High what?

when the article says high tip and wide brim, does that mean high 'top'? is it a typo or is that the name for it in other words. Julia Rossi (talk) 04:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I suspect that the intended word there was "crown"--see Hat#Parts of a hat. 74.137.108.185 (talk) 20:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

why THAT Sombrero ?

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Im sure the Harry S. Truman sombrero is very wonderful but I am also sure that an image can be found of an authentic Mexican sombrero. That is why I deleated the reference to President Truman; it may be his sombrero but why use a gringo's headwear. There are millions of other choices that can be made. It would respect the traditions and culture and people of Mexico to find another. Or, understand why it is that I made the change. Gracias! —Buster7 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

History

The concept of a broad-brimmed hat with a high crown worn by a rider on horseback came primarily from the Mongolian horsemen in the 13th century. The Spaniards developed a flat-topped sombrero, which they brought to Mexico.

Anyone like to comment on this?-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 03:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The flat topped sombrero developped by the Spaniards, quite popular until the Esquilache Riots in 1766 (when it was decreed its substitution by the tricorne), was the chambergo hat, (the hat that comes to your mind when you think of Musketeers), and modernised and readopted during the XIX by the Spanish colonial troops.

However, the above is just one opinion on its history. According to Harley Morenstein from Epic Meal Time, the sombrero originates from the standard bowl. People used to do food in them, slowly people started to see how it would be great to wear the bowls as an hat for sun protection. And so the sombrero was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Another Moose (talk • contribs) 13:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

References

¿Sombrero Poblano in Spain?

I'm from Spain, 32 and I'm quite familiar with the folklorical clothes of most of the Spanish regions. In my whole life have I never heard of such a thing as poblano hat. The closest thing is this [1]. The allusion to the "conchos" ("conchas", as a matter of fact), makes me think that it has been mistaken for the Pilgrim's hat, used by pilgrims doing the Way of St. James. Poblano sounds to me like from Puebla, a Mexican region, I pressume. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.18.38.172 (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

The Estadio Olimpico Universitario in Mexico City main venue for the 1968 Summer Olympics designed by Augusto Pérez, Raúl Salinas Moro y Jorge Bravo for architectural design bears a resemblance to a mariachi hat. Nekko09 (talk) 22:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 May 2013

Hi, can you please add Sombrero in Pop culture, so we can stop the attacks on the page and add the EMT reference. Keyomo (talk) 12:57, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. - Please explain exactly what text you are proposing should be added to or changed in this article. Thanks. Begoon ^talk 15:23, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

He's talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-PoSt7JPJ4 At 2:41 and ending at 2:57 the host states a "fact" about the Sombrero, then asks for people to edit the Wikipedia page. What the host says in the video at 2:41 is the line people were entering into Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.9.128 (talk) 04:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Well a silly line in a You Tube video isn't enough to add a section to this article, unless reliable sources have discussed the incident elsewhere to a degree that would give it notability. Even then, it would have to have pretty damn good, and lasting, notability to get covered by a short, factual article about a hat. Stephen Colbert this guy is not, I'm afraid. Thanks for explaining, though. Begoon ^talk 05:25, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

A note on etymology

According to the Swedish page the name comes from the Spanish word for shadow -> Sombra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.236.40.162 (talk) 14:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Which, in turn, comes from the Latin subumbra (shadow). (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:41, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Non-Mexican sombreros

I found there are articles about four other types of hat all known as types of "sombrero", from Spain and one from Colombia, all either ancestors or directly related to the Mexican sombrero. I was kind of surprised that this page didn't mention them or link to them. I added a sentence and links to all flour pages, but in my opinion all of the pages could be combined into one, since in reality the Mexican sombrero is derived from the earlier Spanish sombrero, which is still worn.

This article only gave a brief sentence saying something about how the "design had been imported from Spain". We could either do one big article with sections on each type of hat, which would show clearly how interrelated they are, or we should at least put more emphasis in this page on how the sombrero evolved from the Sombrero cordobés, basically by growing wider and adopting an easier-to-make rounded crown. It seems to me that "sombrero" is more of a class of hat than a specific hat worn by Mexicans. AnnaGoFast (talk) 20:21, 25 February 2016 (UTC)