Talk:Solitary nucleus

Anatomy: Neuroanatomy Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anatomy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anatomy on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnatomyWikipedia:WikiProject AnatomyTemplate:WikiProject AnatomyAnatomy articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been classified as relating to neuroanatomy.

Neuroscience Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Neuroscience, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Neuroscience on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.NeuroscienceWikipedia:WikiProject NeuroscienceTemplate:WikiProject Neuroscienceneuroscience articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Nucleus tractus solitarius

The concept/phrase "nucleus tractus solitarius" (NTS) is often seen. I guess that it is a synonym of the "solitary nucleus"?

Yup, it literally means "nucleus of the solitary tract". It's found in the medulla and surrounds the solitary tract. --David Iberri (talk) 23:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this info to the NTS page and created a redirect to here from nucleus tractus solitarius. --David Iberri (talk) 23:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Latin the correct term is "nucleus tractus solitarii" which means "nucleus of the tractus solitarius". The reason for the changed ending is that, although the word "solitarius" is a typical second-declension word whose genitive form ("of...") is "solitarii", the word "tractus" is one of the odd-ball fourth declension nouns whose genitive case is "tractus" (with a long u, pronounced "tractoos"). Thus, the phrase "of the solitary tract" is translated "tractus solitarii". Edkoh 03:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Edward T. Koh MD PhDEdkoh (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As long as we are being purists, the term "solitary nucleus" is incorrect. The nucleus is not solitary, the tract is, and is made solitary by the nucleus. If "nucleus of the solitary tract" (a correct term) seems too long, one can always say "NTS" which is widely understood in neuroanatomical circles. Edkoh 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Edward T. Koh MD PhDEdkoh (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am disappointed to learn that the term "solitary nucleus" has been adopted by the National Library of Medicine as its "preferred term". Does anyone know how this can be corrected? Edkoh (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

could anyone tell me why this nucleus or tract are nominated as solitary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.185.85.76 (talk) 08:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Solitary nucleus" is incorrect terminology because it is the tract, not that nucleus, that is solitary. Furthermore, use of this incorrect term uncommon relative to the proper English anatomical term "nucleus of the solitary tract," (in Latin, the proper term is "nucleus tractus solitarius" due to the fourth-declension possessive ending "-us,"; this Latin term also gives us the common abbreviation "NTS"). I am a PhD neuroanatomist with several publications re. this brainstem nucleus, but you don't have to take my word for this. Instead, search the scientific literature for the titles of articles in peer-reviewed journals containing one vs. the other (in quotes), and you will find that "nucleus of the solitary tract" is used ten times more frequently by scientists (Pubmed search: "nucleus of the solitary tract"[Title] -- 529 ; "solitary nucleus"[Title] -- 54 ). Or Google them (in quotes), and you'll find an even more dramatic split. "Nucleus of the solitary tract" is used almost 30x more often (Google search: "nucleus of the solitary tract" -- 1,050,000 ; "solitary nucleus" -- 35,100 ). Therefore, the Wikipedia entry for this nucleus (and NLM) should be re-titled using the proper (and more commonly-used) term, nucleus of the solitary tract. Joel Geerling, MD, PhD (talk) 14:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Joe.geerling, although tractus is a fourth declension noun, solitarius is just a second declension adjective, and therefore the correct expression is nucleus tractus solitarii and NOT nucleus tractus solitarius. With kind regards, Wimpus (talk) 22:44, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wimpus, It seems to me the correct translation of nucleus of the solitary tract is nucleus tracti solitarii. I get the genitive of tractus from Wictionary:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tractus This doesn't seem to be one of those nouns whose genitive is same as nominative. Knoitalno (talk) 19:36, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with "Solitary tract"

There is a separate entry named Solitary tract, why not merge the two, or at least link them?--Biologos 16:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC) why it was named solitary?explain please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.38.142.86 (talk) 12:20, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now linked