Talk:Soldier (The Outer Limits)

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BetacommandBot 03:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plagerism

I thought Ellison sued because of the similarity between Skynet and AM in I Have No Mouth and Must Scream.

I've only heard that in recent years, on the net. Only from memory, but articles in '84 or '85 (whe3never Ellison actually sued) only mentioned "Demon" and "Soldier," with a fannish few who thought the bum in the alley scene from Terminator was similar to the bum in alley scene from Ellison's Trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever." Cameron further hurt himself by continually talking about how much he loved "The Outer Limits." Sir Rhosis (talk) 01:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did he sue or didn't he? Elsewhere on wikipedia: After James Cameron in an interview about his movie The Terminator mentioned that he had been inspired by two episodes ("Soldier" and "Demon with a Glass Hand") of the 1960ies TV series The Outer Limits — both written by Ellison — Ellison sued Cameron. Ellison settled out of court and the film's end credits now include the simple statement: "Acknowledgment to the works of Harlan Ellison."

I've also read in other publications that the end credits in Terminator are the settlement of the lawsuit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.102.67 (talk) 08:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a citation that the note is due to a lawsuit settlement.-Gloriamarie (talk) 21:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, I've just listened to an audio reading of the original short story, not disputing anything here just commenting, the whole template of the story would seem to justify Ellison's plagerism claim. A future soldier fighting an endless war being transported to the present is obvious, but the final part of the story puts forward the idea of changing the future Qarlo came from, and the idea that perhaps the horror of that future is unstoppable, no matter how much anti-war legeslation is set in place to stop the future of K79, the year Qarlo comes from, the other implication is that Qarlo's being in the present may mean he is part of the timeline that leads to his own future, and however Goverment Agent Sym reacts to him will, maybe, set in motion a series of events that will inevitably lead to the year K79, also. And 'Demon with a Glass Hand'? well Trent is a robot sent back in time to protect the future of the human race.81.111.127.132 (talk) 22:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fanboy Weirdness

A less laughable and non-encyclopedic header than "Exceptional Additional Narration." Isn't a blog a suitable place for a person's favorite story quotes? 76.23.157.102 (talk) 22:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between the two "alleged Terminator infringement episodes"

On the "Soldier" page, it says that both episodes were the basis of Ellison's lawsuit. On the page for the other episode (Robert Culp as a robot) it says that it was only "Soldier", going so far as to provide evidence (Ellison on his website) it was only "Soldier". Hope that made sense (sorry if it should've gone under the "infringement" heading). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nandor1 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1998 film

Plot seems a bit similar to the 1998 film Soldier too. 68.49.32.138 (talk) 11:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]