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Who represents the EU?

The article currently reads in the first paragraph that the presidents of the Council and the Commission have the same order of precedence. However, this is strongly debated among the organs. For example, the presidents of the Council, the Commission and the Parliament fought over who would receive the Nobel peace price for the EU. The Wikipedia-article ||President of the European Union|| states: "The president of the European Council is considered the principal representative of the EU internationally and diplomatically." If that is true, the president of the Council would have preceded on the diplomatic visit to Turkey.

If there are reliable sources pointing to a difference in ranking between these two leaders in this particular incident, then please WP:BOLD and add them! Morgengave (talk) 22:20, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, there is a technicality here, as explained in this POLITICO article: "Technically, the Council president ranks above the Commission president, but in diplomatic practice, the two are usually treated equally". That's probably why EU officials said Turkey interpreted the protocol too strictly. So while the president of the Council technically outranks the president of the Commission, it seems that they both have the same order of precedence in practice. Ahmad^talk 01:40, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]